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Botany

(70,552 posts)
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 09:45 AM Nov 2016

Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.

http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/ <http://www.gregpalast.com/election-stolen-heres/>


Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives.

Starting in 2013 – just as the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act – a coterie of Trump operatives, under the direction of Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State, created a system to purge 1.1 million Americans of color from the voter rolls of GOP–controlled states.

The system, called Crosscheck, is detailed in my Rolling Stone report,
“The GOP’s Stealth War on Voters <http://www.gregpalast.com/rolling-stone-expose-gops-secret-plan-steal-vote/>,” 8/24/2016.

Crosscheck in action:
Trump victory margin in Michigan: 13,107
Michigan Crosscheck purge list: 449,922

Trump victory margin in Arizona: 85,257
Arizona Crosscheck purge list: 270,824

Trump victory margin in North Carolina: 177,008
North Carolina Crosscheck purge list: 589,393
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Before a single vote was cast, the election was fixed by GOP and Trump operatives. (Original Post) Botany Nov 2016 OP
I fear this will only get worse. madamvlb Nov 2016 #1
I always wondered how they could be so sure that people with property in Baitball Blogger Nov 2016 #5
I'm a snowbird!! madamvlb Nov 2016 #9
LOL! Baitball Blogger Nov 2016 #13
Driver's License in one state only radical noodle Nov 2016 #19
Aside from that, even if you don't have to fly... TreasonousBastard Nov 2016 #25
This was certainly a piece of the sh1t pie. Hugin Nov 2016 #2
This is what we need to fight against Bettie Nov 2016 #3
"This is what we need to fight against but how?" Botany Nov 2016 #7
OK. Thank you Bettie Nov 2016 #10
one foot in front of the next and move on Botany Nov 2016 #12
Wow! Cooley Hurd Nov 2016 #4
imho, this is the news that was intended to be stifled mopinko Nov 2016 #6
Exactly what I thought True_Blue Nov 2016 #22
Trump was right when he said 'this election is rigged like you wouldn't believe.' Botany Nov 2016 #24
This is chilling! This, and what is taking over the country. What really bothers me are those RKP5637 Nov 2016 #8
the bastards. barbtries Nov 2016 #11
Not by operatives. By the media. duffyduff Nov 2016 #14
Latest on NPR this morning: KKKris KKKobach is being mentioned for Attorney General!!! LongTomH Nov 2016 #15
With liberty and justice for all! SCVDem Nov 2016 #16
This is what ground game really means. This is what the Democrats need to fight between elections. ancianita Nov 2016 #17
And now Greg Palast is back in the news. SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2016 #18
As I suspected BSdetect Nov 2016 #20
I was told it was the DNC and corporatists who voted for Hillary in the primaries. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #21
K&R BSdetect Nov 2016 #23
The only way republicans can win is by stopping people from voting liberal N proud Nov 2016 #26
Didn't some of this happen in Florida in 2000? Dirty Socialist Nov 2016 #27

Baitball Blogger

(46,753 posts)
5. I always wondered how they could be so sure that people with property in
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:05 AM
Nov 2016

two different states aren't voting in both. I would track Florida snowbirds to battleground states to see if it's a real problem.

Republicans aren't known for just cheating in one way.

radical noodle

(8,010 posts)
19. Driver's License in one state only
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:12 PM
Nov 2016

If you get one in Florida, then they destroy the one you had elsewhere. That's what happened when we moved from Indiana to Florida.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
25. Aside from that, even if you don't have to fly...
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 04:00 AM
Nov 2016

spending a bundle and a whole day to cast one or two extra votes, it's a real pain to just drive from your Montclair, NJ home to your beach house in Westhampton to cast those extra votes.

If there are any votes like that, they are probably irrelevant.

Bettie

(16,118 posts)
3. This is what we need to fight against
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:04 AM
Nov 2016

but how? They control everything and will continue to remove people from the voting rolls, probably faster than we can get them back on.

Guess when the Orange Walking Nightmare kept jabbering about the thing being rigged, he was telling the truth, we just misunderstood what he meant.

Botany

(70,552 posts)
7. "This is what we need to fight against but how?"
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:11 AM
Nov 2016

Every state that used Crosscheck should have their outcomes challenged and
thrown out. People's Constitutionally protected vote was taken away.

Contact the D. o J., Democratic Senators, and the useless DNC. We need to
raise a stink knowing that the media will do its best to hide the story about
a dirty and rigged election.

Bettie

(16,118 posts)
10. OK. Thank you
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:35 AM
Nov 2016

I'm having cognitive difficulties since this election.

I have a direction and a word processing program and the internets (all of them).

Time to write some letters and do some research (not in that order).

Botany

(70,552 posts)
12. one foot in front of the next and move on
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:45 AM
Nov 2016

I worked during election day and I was never more sure of the outcome then that day.

W/that being said I still can't watch the news or read a paper, my sleep comes in small
stages, and my good times I am in a fog or numb from drink and in my bad times I feel
waves of pain.

But still we must fight and any state that used "crosscheck" should have their outcomes
voided.

mopinko

(70,178 posts)
6. imho, this is the news that was intended to be stifled
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:07 AM
Nov 2016

by hacking this place.
srsly, who has a better rep than du for digging into fishy results?

True_Blue

(3,063 posts)
22. Exactly what I thought
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:51 PM
Nov 2016

DU was hacked hours before the first polls closed, and yet that hate video seemed certain that Trump was going to win. They were planning to steal the election and knew DU would be all over it. Trump was right when he said 'this election is rigged like you wouldn't believe.'

Botany

(70,552 posts)
24. Trump was right when he said 'this election is rigged like you wouldn't believe.'
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 03:25 PM
Nov 2016

yup. It was a coup and our media will not cover it.

I can't put my fingers on it but it was a sophisticated multi level action.

They had to keep the election close enough so in the end they could steal it.
And to that end we had unceasing and unending investigations into nothing,
Comey and the FBI with their last minute email scandal, Russia and Wiki
leaks doing whatever, and 30 years of selling hate about the Clintons from
the right wing.

We need to demand that the 2016 is really looked @ and that any state that
used "crosscheck" have their elections voided out.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
8. This is chilling! This, and what is taking over the country. What really bothers me are those
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:14 AM
Nov 2016

coddling up to him, like maybe we can work with him, and of that BS. The country is going down a path that is so dangerous. Just looking at his picks, those surrounding him, and others in the wing, should be enough to scare the majority of people.

 

duffyduff

(3,251 posts)
14. Not by operatives. By the media.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 10:51 AM
Nov 2016

The argument of vote-rigging that was leveled during the "elections" of Bush II doesn't apply here.

There is no precedent in the history of this country for the election of Donald Trump. His candidacy, which was not serious, was made serious because it was entirely manufactured by the media. It was done for ad revenue and ratings.

Hillary Clinton wasn't good for the bottom line. Trump was. She had to be taken out as a result. There was 24/7 focus on non-existent "scandals" because the media moguls WANTED Trump.

You have to remember the GOP party bigwigs DESPISE Trump. Most of them refused to campaign for him, and many of them adamantly refused to vote for him. They hate his guts because they KNOW what went down during those GOP primaries.

Almost everybody here was focused on the Clinton-Sanders side of the primaries. They should have been paying close attention to the GOP side instead.

LongTomH

(8,636 posts)
15. Latest on NPR this morning: KKKris KKKobach is being mentioned for Attorney General!!!
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 11:25 AM
Nov 2016

That's Attorney General of the US. This isn't shaping up to be a White House cabinet, it's looking more and more like a fucking criminal conspiracy!!!

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
16. With liberty and justice for all!
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 11:27 AM
Nov 2016

Bullshit!

We can lose the god references also.

Time for honesty.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,135 posts)
18. And now Greg Palast is back in the news.
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 11:53 AM
Nov 2016

He is like the harbinger of political corruption. Eight years of breathing freely and back to detention.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
20. As I suspected
Wed Nov 16, 2016, 12:32 PM
Nov 2016

They were gerrymandering and eliminating voters like crazy yet the DP failed to stop that.

The DP is also too weak to demand that the election was rigged and results should be voided in those three states. If not all where this took place.

The country is now in the hands of dedicated maniacs and criminals.



liberal N proud

(60,339 posts)
26. The only way republicans can win is by stopping people from voting
Sun Nov 20, 2016, 07:47 AM
Nov 2016

And that plan of purging people will continue and grow. Coupled with gerrymandering, they will remain in power regardless of how terrible they are in office.

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