2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSo, here's what I don't get: Trump was polling at *literally* 0% with AA voters, yet he gets 10% of
their vote on election night?
And, Trump did BETTER than Romney with the Latino vote?
How is that possible?!?!?
How could the polling been *that* off?
Apologies if this has been posted, I've just now been let back in.....
I am upset beyond words about the outcome of this election.
(One bright note, we did manage to retire Sheriff Joe Arpaio, here in Maricopa County!)
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)One possibility.
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)Arkansas Granny
(31,518 posts)If they can hack the DNC, I don't think disrupting the election is too much of a reach.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)e-voting has only one reason to exist: it is meant to be hackable.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)The Perfect Storm helped to give tRump this particular presidency, and part of that perfect storm was hacking into our elections from the Russians.
As for Joe Arpaio, the last I heard was that tRump was looking at him as a possible director of Homeland Security.
onecaliberal
(32,864 posts)SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)He wasn't polling at 0% with African-American voters. There were polls out before the election that said he was outpacing Romney with African Americans.
Coventina
(27,121 posts)was killing it with all minorities.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Coventina
(27,121 posts)Something just doesn't smell right to me.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Overall, she got 93% of the AA vote (99% of AA women, 83% of AA men).
Amishman
(5,557 posts)I'll admit I was surprised by the result but I could certainly see the pro Trump energy in my part of PA. I just assumed Philly would bail js out.
But Hillary lacked Obama's charisma and lost a little ground in Philly and more ground around Pittsburgh. Trump was embraced everywhere in between.
Appealing to urban voters alone won't cut it.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)this is what happened.
Igel
(35,320 posts)We also tend to not notice or remember things we don't like. We remember things that fit our internal narratives.
Most people use critical thinking to attack their enemies. The problem is, as Feynman pointed out, you're the person most likely to deceive you and critical thinking is most needed to question one's self. Questioning and doubting enemies is second nature and given tools to do that we'll all do it. But being trained to question ourselves, that takes skill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases#Memory_errors
Cogito, ergo erro.
Every 9th grader should be exposed to a long list of cognitive biases and Gricean maxims. Instead, most grad students are barely aware of them, more so in some fields than in others.
AmandaRuth
(3,105 posts)Prominent rappers saying that a vote for trump was a protest vote against the Democratic Party taking the black vote for granted. Also, I had some AA facebook friends who fell for the Clinton is the mist corrupt candidate in history smear.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)... proportionality is the issue here
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)You tend to miss those that vote for republicans cycle after cycle. Target the right precincts and that number goes up.