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Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 02:57 AM Nov 2016

None of our 2016 candidates should run in 2020.

Our best hope is finding a candidate who has no real connection to intra-party toxicity of this year at all.

As we need to hit the reset button on the very way this party is run, we need someone(and I don't know who that would be at this moment) who embodies that reset.

My dream candidate would be something like a younger Barbara Lee. But in any case, we need someone new.

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None of our 2016 candidates should run in 2020. (Original Post) Ken Burch Nov 2016 OP
Barbara Lee is a couple years older than Hillary JI7 Nov 2016 #1
To clarify, I said "a younger Barbara Lee" Ken Burch Nov 2016 #5
Clinton and Sanders will be ancient. BlueStater Nov 2016 #2
none of them will. We have to get to 2020, and limit the damage as much as possible, and see if we still_one Nov 2016 #3
I agree in theory DFW Nov 2016 #4
We really don't know what we will need until we see what damage tRump does in the coming years. Raastan Nov 2016 #6
After the bitter taste of the Trump bullshit The_Casual_Observer Nov 2016 #7
I''m Trump's age... spin Nov 2016 #8
He. Or She. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #9
Agree, unfortunately, Dems only win with political rock stars like radius777 Nov 2016 #10
Non East Coast, Non Baby Boomer Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #11
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
5. To clarify, I said "a younger Barbara Lee"
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:27 AM
Nov 2016

I should have said "a Barbara Lee-type". I doubt the congresswoman herself would even want to run.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
2. Clinton and Sanders will be ancient.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:12 AM
Nov 2016

Can our next nominee for president please not be born in the 1940s? Geez.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
3. none of them will. We have to get to 2020, and limit the damage as much as possible, and see if we
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:14 AM
Nov 2016

can do anything about improving our odds in 2018

DFW

(54,405 posts)
4. I agree in theory
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:27 AM
Nov 2016

I remember what Howard Dean said in 2009--that new blood should take over the reins, and that an incoming president should ideally be around 50 or younger. Keep in mind that at the time, he had just resigned as DNC chair, looking back proudly on his accomplishment of the last four years, and that Obama's presidency was an open book at that point. When no one with the necessary buzz of a 2008 Obama was making noises in late 2014, he went with Hillary, even though she was a year older than he was, and he considered himself already too old.

If there's someone out there who would be "just the one," I hope we have absolutely no clue who it is until 2019. I want the Republicans to be just as blindsided as they were in 2008, and our victory to be just as massive.

Raastan

(266 posts)
6. We really don't know what we will need until we see what damage tRump does in the coming years.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:28 AM
Nov 2016

With a monster like him in charge, all bets are off as we are in strange new territory.

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
7. After the bitter taste of the Trump bullshit
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:45 AM
Nov 2016

It might not be that tough. There are quite a few good candidates coming up. We have some good folks in California and others throughout the US.

spin

(17,493 posts)
8. I''m Trump's age...
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:03 AM
Nov 2016

and a bit older than Hillary.

I don't know what vitamins they take but I need some.

We need to find another Obama or JFK to run the next time. Someone with considerable charisma who can enthuse younger voters but have the experience to reassure the older voters that he can do the job. If we can find such a candidate he could easily win in 2020 and serve two terms. We have some time to find this person but we need to start looking now.



 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
9. He. Or She.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:10 AM
Nov 2016

(I'd say Or THEY, too, but I don't think the country will be ready for that 'til the Thirties).

radius777

(3,635 posts)
10. Agree, unfortunately, Dems only win with political rock stars like
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:13 AM
Nov 2016

Obama and Bill, who were not only young and charismatic but brilliant policy wonks as well.

As Carville said a few days ago, the Dem bench is very thin, there are very few (if any) candidates out there that may fit the above criteria.

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