We should impeach Presidents for lying during a campaign? In that case, every President in history would have been impeached.

He'll most likely do enough to be impeached once he's in office.

Not sure that'll be any better.

That would definitely be worse.

I think the bland Pence would be easier to beat in 2020. As deplorable as Trump is, he was able to turn out the KKK/Neo Nazi vote and he played the media like a fiddle. No reason to think that would change if Trump was still around.

I just don't happen to think that Trump will still be around. And depending on how the next four years go and what sort of enthusiasm and quality candidate the Democratic party finds, will determine what happens in 2020.

At the state levels, the GOP will put in even more voter restrictions targeting urban voters and students. Definitely played a part in a few of the close states, I think. Will likely hurt the Democrats even more in 2018 and 2020.

After gutting the Voting Rights Act, the door is wide open unfortunately.

Your analogy of putting Trump in the same boat as Hillary, Bernie, Bill, or any other presidential candidate for "lying during a campaign" is ridiculous.

What a shocker! All politicians knowingly lie during their campaigns.

Obviously you enjoy doing just that.

But it won't happen until the republican party decides to get rid of him. They are going to please their corporate masters by doing everything they want to do and when the economy inevitably tanks, Trump will be the fall guy

Seriously? Have you really thought this through?

...without concern, the media will always be "corrupt", and you'll only be able to "trust" his tweets. Also, the Republicans are so power hungry, they will continually look the other way, and give DT a pass on his massive criminal enterprise.

Nightmare scenario.

Trump wasn't under oath during the campaign. This is silly.

That's called being a politician. Lying under oath is impeachable. Lying on the campaign is not. Even if you don't intentd to keep those promises.

Lets get the house and get him sworn in in front of a committee. Then he will most definitely perjure himself.

I guess we'll just have to see what happens and keep our fingers crossed.

Lying to get elected isn't covered. That's on the dumb fucks who couldn't see through it.

Not a freaking chance.

And I don't think it would be too hard to prove he intentionally defrauded his voters. He went a little above and beyond the usual amount of lying that takes place in campaigns, in case you didn't notice.

Yet people are freaking out about what he said during the election (and is now backing off what is arguable the worst of it).

Which is it? Fear of what he said, or anger and indictment at not following through?

I'm actually glad he is backing off his "promises".

Certainly no Republican, he could shoot someone and they won't lift a finger against him, he already has an enemies list of people he will make pay and this guy just used the FBI to get elected before he even had any authority over the FBI, what do you think the FBI will do for Trump now?

we are just going along for the ride now ...

And I don't trust him not to flip flop again if it suits him.

Who the hell do you think you are to tell anyone to get a grip? Are you some kind of expert or something?

build a wall that Mexico pays for, repeal ACA, and whatever else he "promised".

Better that then fraudulently gathering votes during an election - only scumbags would mis-represent their positions during an election!

Too funny.

In fact, it's encouraged. And how would you get a republican congress to vote for impeachment?

And I needed a laugh. Thank you.

Pence is trading one horror for another. It is time to choose your favorite circle in Hell for the next four years.

Just hope the Constitution will still apply

You're right, it does have to be during the presidency. My bad.

Under oath is a different story.

to impeach and a Democrat-controlled Senate to convict. Easy peasy.

fuck ...

Rs have a mortal lock on the house and will NEVER impeach an R president.

The more that Trump changes his tunes, the more they (the repubs) may see it in their best interests to remove him so that the much more conservative asshole, Pence, takes over as president. I'll bet that behind closed doors some of those tea party morons are already flaking out over Trump's flip flops.

1) Out principle they Rs will NEVER impeach an R. They got buyers remorse immediately after having a hand in having Nixon step down and generally have their insane, never admit fault things on steroids.

2) There are LOT of the Rs in congress who are strong Trump people.

3) They know that they would suffer GREAT backlash from their pods who show up at the voting booths if the impeach him, that is why they never really carried through on their impulses to run him off during the primary.

4) Finally, he is a useful idiot to them. He can take all the bullets as POTUS, they will simply not pass anything he proposes that they don't like and bully him to pass whatever insane $hit they want to get passed. The dynamic changes now that he is in the box of the executive office and having to "work with" congress to do most things.

Lying is not illegal unless under oath in some form or another.

Lying to get votes is not illegal either.

Fraud in a legal sense is quite narrowly defined and must meet certain conditions, which Mr. Trump does not fit into, even though he clearly lied to win the election. Duping someone into voting for you is not against the law.