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riversedge

(70,242 posts)
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:40 PM Nov 2016

It's official. @drjillstein asking for 2.5 million by 4 pm CST Friday to pay for recounts in WI, MI

I believe only he people running can ask for the recount. Lots of money needed.



Greg Neumann ?@gneumann_wkow 43m43 minutes ago

It's official. @drjillstein asking for $2.5 million by 4 pm CST Friday to pay for recounts in WI, MI, PA. #WKOW

jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

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It's official. @drjillstein asking for 2.5 million by 4 pm CST Friday to pay for recounts in WI, MI (Original Post) riversedge Nov 2016 OP
So am I supposed to not hate her guts now? TheLibIn615 Nov 2016 #1
No you're supposed to send her money. milestogo Nov 2016 #2
Have to admit--I had about the same reaction. But give credit where it is due. riversedge Nov 2016 #3
If she pulls this off and gets the recounts, she will have redeemed herself in my eyes Hekate Nov 2016 #29
She had better come up with a whole lot more than 2.5 million SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2016 #4
Now we see the true purpose of third party candidates. milestogo Nov 2016 #5
For realz? JHan Nov 2016 #6
If I am going to send money it won't be to her. LiberalFighter Nov 2016 #7
I think you can send money to the Massachusetts Green Party radical noodle Nov 2016 #26
Why would send it to the Green Party? LiberalFighter Nov 2016 #35
She needs to tell us WHY. MADem Nov 2016 #8
She's basing it on the same information that we have been discussing at DU. milestogo Nov 2016 #18
She needs to say so. Does she believe Clinton won? MADem Nov 2016 #22
Point Hekate Nov 2016 #30
Mark cuban should give the boston bean Nov 2016 #9
yeah right? angel823 Nov 2016 #12
What? Has Putin cut her off so she is looking for a DURHAM D Nov 2016 #10
More on @DrJillStein request for money to pay a recount in Wisconsin. riversedge Nov 2016 #11
excellent, Clinton can do the same easy to chipin for 2 million plus experts for machine software Sunlei Nov 2016 #13
Let her know the guilt of staying in the race. I hope she sleeps as rzemanfl Nov 2016 #14
I hope she's not scamming but if she isn't, I think this is a good development. ucrdem Nov 2016 #15
Yep. It's better that it come from a non-Democrat. GoCubsGo Nov 2016 #16
PLEASE DONATE! BlueInPhilly Nov 2016 #17
Yes! I just donated. If all DUers donated what they can afford, it would be over very quickly. athena Nov 2016 #23
A lot of Hillary supporters on Facebook radical noodle Nov 2016 #27
If there was hacking frazzled Nov 2016 #19
Most states have verified voting, including MI and WI. joshcryer Nov 2016 #20
Wisconsin frazzled Nov 2016 #24
But much of Pennsylvania is unverified. spooky3 Nov 2016 #25
Yeah joshcryer Nov 2016 #31
Alex Haldermann on Medium says it would be easy spooky3 Nov 2016 #33
They need to be open source. joshcryer Nov 2016 #34
Why doesn't she just tell her voters to switch their votes? .99center Nov 2016 #21
She's up to 1.8 million cilla4progress Nov 2016 #28
Seems if the recount goes through... JSup Nov 2016 #32

JHan

(10,173 posts)
6. For realz?
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:50 PM
Nov 2016

LMao

Ok. SO SUDDENLY EVERYONE REALISES HOW CRITICAL IT WAS FOR THE ORANGE JACKA** TO NOT BE IN THE OVAL OFFICE?!?!!?

I thought Hillary was worse than Trump.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. She needs to tell us WHY.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 03:56 PM
Nov 2016

If she believes the election was stolen from Hillary Clinton, she needs to step up, wipe that smug Pootie-lovin' smirk off her face, and SAY SO.

Otherwise? Fuck Jill Stein. We already know who really won this election, and it wasn't that Orange Anus.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. She needs to say so. Does she believe Clinton won?
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:24 PM
Nov 2016

Stand up and say so, Jill.


I think she's hoping for a bump in HER numbers.

Thing is, it would benefit Trump if the Russians added votes to Stein--she might just LOSE votes if she gets a real recount.

riversedge

(70,242 posts)
11. More on @DrJillStein request for money to pay a recount in Wisconsin.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:08 PM
Nov 2016


Greg Neumann ?@gneumann_wkow 15m15 minutes ago

More on @DrJillStein request for money to pay a recount in Wisconsin. #WKOW




http://www.wkow.com/story/33783289/2016/11/23/dr-jill-stein-raising-money-to-pay-for-a-presidential-election-recount-in-wisconsin



Dr. Jill Stein raising money to pay for a presidential election recount in Wisconsin




By Greg Neumann

Posted: Nov 23, 2016 1:21 PM CST
Updated: Nov 23, 2016 1:27 PM CST


MADISON (WKOW) -- Green Party Presidential Nominee Jill Stein is seeking to raise $2.5 million by late Friday afternoon in order to pay for presidential election recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania - three states narrowly won by Republican President-Elect Donald Trump.

On a fundraising page launched early Wednesday afternoon, the Stein campaign indicates it wants recounts in those three states because "data suggests significant discrepancies in vote totals."

Results show Trump won Wisconsin by 27,257 votes over Democratic Nominee Hillary Clinton, a margin of just 1 percent.

According to WEC Administrator Mike Haas, the agency has no discretion on whether to conduct the recount if Stein's campaign pays for it - unless there is intervening court litigation to stop it.

rzemanfl

(29,565 posts)
14. Let her know the guilt of staying in the race. I hope she sleeps as
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:46 PM
Nov 2016

badly for the next four years as I have for the last two weeks. Nader in Florida in 2000 wasn't enough to convince these people not to be vanity candidates.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
15. I hope she's not scamming but if she isn't, I think this is a good development.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 04:47 PM
Nov 2016

Basically it's impossible for Hillary to even utter the word because that would instantly create the media circus the perps are probably counting on to run out the clock on recounts.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
16. Yep. It's better that it come from a non-Democrat.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 06:17 PM
Nov 2016

I hope this isn't a scam, as well. I would like to think that she understands just what is at stake here, and that she is just doing the right thing.

athena

(4,187 posts)
23. Yes! I just donated. If all DUers donated what they can afford, it would be over very quickly.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:28 PM
Nov 2016

Please donate, and forward it to your pro-democracy family and friends.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
19. If there was hacking
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:41 PM
Nov 2016

What exactly would a recount do? Depends, I suppose, on at what point of the process the hacking took place, and what kinds of machines were in use, and many things I don't really have any idea about.

But, I doubt a simple recount in Scott Walker's state will do much of anything.

I wouldn't contribute to Stein. What kind of transparency has she assured for the use of the money? What will happen to the money you donate if a recount doesn't take place?

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
20. Most states have verified voting, including MI and WI.
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:51 PM
Nov 2016
https://www.verifiedvoting.org/resources/vvpr-legislation/

If there really is a 7% discrepancy as suggested then it would be trivially discovered. And monumental.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
24. Wisconsin
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 11:45 PM
Nov 2016
For state and federal elections, the county boards of canvassers for the counties in which the contested votes are cast conduct the recount. The Wisconsin Elections Commission recommends that the board of canvassers be composed of the same people who initially canvassed the election results.

http://elections.wi.gov/sites/default/files/publication/65/recount_manual_11_2016_pdf_17034.pdf


Same people tallying in each county. Do you really envision there being different results? I don't. Verified paper trails or not.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
31. Yeah
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 01:13 AM
Nov 2016

The link I posted has a map. I just heard the rumor of the 7% discrepancy. I don't see a change in outcome, but it would throw into question the entire election. A more damning thing would be hacked firmware.

But this ultimately was a social engineered manipulation.

spooky3

(34,458 posts)
33. Alex Haldermann on Medium says it would be easy
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 09:06 AM
Nov 2016

Last edited Thu Nov 24, 2016, 01:19 PM - Edit history (1)

To hack the machines if planned in advance.

He's an IT expert and is calling for an audit, not because he believes the evidence clearly indicates hacking, nor does he necessarily believe the polls were wrong, or other events, but because citizens need to be assured that the votes were counted properly.

.99center

(1,237 posts)
21. Why doesn't she just tell her voters to switch their votes?
Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:13 PM
Nov 2016

Spoiler...

This country has lost it's mind...

People that voted for Garry is what really boggles the mind, what message did he have besides being pro-legalization of pot? You think they'll be shocked when Trumps AG starts enforcing federal drug laws?

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)
28. She's up to 1.8 million
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 12:00 AM
Nov 2016

She's going to make it.

The GOOD people of this country will not go down without a FIGHT!

Historic

JSup

(740 posts)
32. Seems if the recount goes through...
Thu Nov 24, 2016, 01:20 AM
Nov 2016

...she's also looking for volunteers to observe the recounting in every county. It looks like the donations will reach the required amount so if you live in the areas and can do it, volunteer.

http://www.jill2016.com/recountpa
http://www.jill2016.com/recountmi
http://www.jill2016.com/recountwi

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