2016 Postmortem

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts) Wed Nov 23, 2016, 07:59 PM Nov 2016

Jill Stein Pushes For Election Recount In Key States

Green Party presidential nominee Jill Stein is pushing for vote recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, three traditionally Democratic states where Donald Trump did much better than expected on Nov. 8.

Trump pulled off historic upsets that night in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. Michigan has yet to be called, but he is projected to win there as well.

Stein’s press director made the announcement in a Facebook livestream on Wednesday afternoon. Her campaign is now accepting donations for the effort and calling on supporters to provide $2 million by Friday afternoon. Its statement references “compelling evidence of voting anomalies” and “significant discrepancies in vote totals” in the three states.

The news comes days ahead of the states’ deadlines to file recount requests. Wisconsin’s deadline is Friday; Pennsylvania’s is Monday and Michigan’s is Wednesday, Nov. 30.

Stein’s call follows a Tuesday night report in New York magazine saying a group of election lawyers and computer scientists have contacted Hillary Clinton’s team to advocate for a recount of the votes in those states.

J. Alex Halderman, a University of Michigan professor in that group, explained his reasoning in a Wednesday post on Medium:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jill-stein-election-recount_us_5835e45be4b09b6055fffc64

The Green Party nominee says she needs $2 million to fund recount requests in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

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Jill Stein Pushes For Election Recount In Key States (Original Post) UCmeNdc Nov 2016 OP

718,479.55 RAISED itsrobert Nov 2016 #1

Wowed UCmeNdc Nov 2016 #2

Do you think someone is on cilla4progress Nov 2016 #3

I hope it's not a fundraising scam. She's out to disrupt election, leaning Libertarian, now this? TheBlackAdder Nov 2016 #4

Please delete your post. athena Nov 2016 #5

Learn what slander is. Tell me she wasn't leaning Libertarian during the election cycle. TheBlackAdder Nov 2016 #8

She's now over 1 mill dollars - here is where to donate KatyBR Nov 2016 #6

It just occurred to me athena Nov 2016 #7

This is a scam - she keeps changing how much she "needs" to raise oberliner Nov 2016 #9

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)

1. 718,479.55 RAISED

Reply to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:01 PM

Nov 2016

and counting

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)

2. Wowed

Reply to itsrobert (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:04 PM

Nov 2016

cilla4progress

(24,736 posts)

3. Do you think someone is on

Reply to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:10 PM

Nov 2016

getting the word to Buffett, Soros, Bloomberg, Steyer, etc.?

TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)

4. I hope it's not a fundraising scam. She's out to disrupt election, leaning Libertarian, now this?

Reply to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:42 PM

Nov 2016

athena

(4,187 posts)

5. Please delete your post.

Reply to TheBlackAdder (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 08:52 PM

Nov 2016

With zero evidence, it's pure slander. Such unsubstantiated allegations will discourage people from donating. I donated and am proud of it. I'm thinking of donating some more.

TheBlackAdder

(28,208 posts)

8. Learn what slander is. Tell me she wasn't leaning Libertarian during the election cycle.

Reply to athena (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 24, 2016, 08:50 AM

Nov 2016

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This is one of the things troubling here. I write a concern that this is a deviation from her past behavior.

If you write something that people don't want to hear, they want to delete or form a posse to delete your posts.

That's fine. You can donate more. But, we would probably not be in this mess, in a few states if she didn't run and tell people misinformation and dissuade them from critically thinking about Trump and Clinton. Even if some of the states did not sway the election, she was a megaphone for reinforcing the , "They are the same evil" message that turned people away from voting.

I seriously doubt my voice has any impact, much like you delete your post comment will.

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KatyBR

(183 posts)

6. She's now over 1 mill dollars - here is where to donate

Reply to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:09 PM

Nov 2016

https://jillstein.nationbuilder.com/recount

athena

(4,187 posts)

7. It just occurred to me

Reply to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Wed Nov 23, 2016, 09:32 PM

Nov 2016

that Jill Stein herself can request a recount. She was a candidate, and candidates are allowed to request a recount if they can pay for it. I was somehow under the impression that Hillary had to request the recount. But Jill Stein can do it, and it is easier for her than it would be for Hillary, who would be attacked in the most hateful way possible if she dared request a recount.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/recount-rules-battleground-states-2016-presidential-election-231013

Michigan: A mandatory recount if 2,000 votes or less separate the top two candidates. Candidates can petition for a recount due to fraud or a counting error.

Wisconsin: Any candidate can request a recount within three days of completion of the initial tally. The recount is free to the requesting candidate if the margin of victory is less than 0.5 percent, otherwise it must be paid for in advance.

Pennsylvania: Automatic recount when vote margin is less than 0.5 percent. Voters can petition county boards for a recount. Voters or candidates can petition courts for a recount.

(Emphases mine.)

Apologies to anyone who was already aware of this. I was under the impression that Hillary herself would have to request the recount.

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

9. This is a scam - she keeps changing how much she "needs" to raise

Reply to UCmeNdc (Original post)

Thu Nov 24, 2016, 08:58 AM

Nov 2016

Democrats should not give money to this woman who hates Democrats and campaigns against them.

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