2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNow that Rice is out, who do you want for SOS??
I want to keep John Kerry in the Senate, so I don't know who I want to replace Hillary.
Viva_Daddy
(785 posts)center rising
(971 posts)Laurian
(2,593 posts)I really don't want to see anymore Republicans (even though they are moderate) rewarded when there are so many qualified and deserving Democrats available. Screw bipartisanship, especially after the treatment of Amb Rice.
Mass
(27,315 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,829 posts)Today, U.S. Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Utah), Ranking Member of the Senate Finance Committee, led a group of 28 Senators in sending a letter to Dr. Donald Berwick, the Administrator for the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS), urging him to reconsider Indiana's Medicaid State Plan, which restricts funding to health providers that perform abortions, that CMS refused to approve on June 1st. In addition, the Senators warn the Administration against cutting off Indiana's Medicaid funding.
"We ask for your swift reconsideration of Indiana's SPA 11-110. Indiana's proposal should not only be approved, we believe it serves as an important model for every state. We fully support the intent of HEA 1210 to prevent taxpayer dollars from subsidizing the operational costs of abortions; and more broadly, we support the right of states to administer their Medicaid programs in a manner consistent with the values and needs of their citizens," the Senators wrote.In addition to Hatch, the following Senators signed the letter: Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), Mike Crapo (R-Idaho), Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Jim DeMint (R-South Carolina), Rand Paul (R-Ky.), Mike Johanns (R-Neb.), Roy Blunt (R-Mo.), Jim Inhofe (R-Okla.), Dan Coats (R-Ind.), James Risch (R-Idaho), John Hoeven (R-N.D.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), Jerry Moran (R-Kan.), Richard Burr (R-N.C.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), Dean Heller (R-Nev.), Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), John Thune (R-S.D.), John McCain (R-Ariz.), Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), John Barrasso (R-Wyo.), John Cornyn (R-Texas), and Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.).
Look who he's in bed with. If we can't trust him wth 'lady town' - we can't trust him at all. Hmmm . . . Rand Paul. Rand Paul, Jeff Sessions, yuck yuck yuck
John Kerry, Bill Richardson, Wesley Clarke, Barney Frank . . .
patrice
(47,992 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)But he IS a Retired Army Colonel who supports and has voted for President Obama, and former Chief of Staff of then SoS Colin Powell to whom he's also a loyal friend. This man is intelligent, strong, and perfect as SoS.
I would rather have Senator Kerry remain in the Senate as well.
patrice
(47,992 posts)placed that stuff after their names not in front of them.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Yes, Colonel Wilkerson is a Republican, but he's enraged by his party these days. He would serve President Obama well IF he is chosen as SoS.
patrice
(47,992 posts)His committees alone justify this commitment from the rest of us to support someone just as good as he would be for SOS.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)that seat.
That may be a good point, especially after Romney's really very bad loss.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)and at his farewell speech on the senate floor, he appears to be expecting a comeback.
I hope for MA that they've learned their lesson from the last time, and will have a strong and popular Democrat ready to hit the ground running should Senator Kerry be chosen as the SoS.
patrice
(47,992 posts)That is, if Kerry goes to State.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)to campaign for Senator Kerry's seat should he be chosen by the president to succeed SoS Clinton. I know he's just a young person, but he appears to be really popular in MA.
Also, it appears that Rep. Markey has over $3 million in his war chest while Brown-noser has less than half a mil. But I know the Koch Bros will immediately send millions to support him in a bid to win the seat for their boy so it could still get sticky.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)or lure a Republican out of their seat, then fire them later.
KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)Eom
JanetLovesObama
(548 posts)Period !
center rising
(971 posts)blm
(113,071 posts).
JanetLovesObama
(548 posts)Brown for Kerry's seat then it's got more problems than Texas.
Texin
(2,596 posts)Why risk it now? They'd have only a 145 day period in which to choose a candidate and run for it. OTOH, Brown just campaigned for a senate seat. Wouldn't take a lot of heavy lifting to gin it up again and keep on running. The people might just think he's okay enough to return him if he's facing a lackluster, no-name candidate (like last time). Granted, he lost his seat to Warren, but again, a nobody candidate might give him the boost he'd need to just get a handful more votes and he's likely to outrun someone that's not well known and politically polished.
RC
(25,592 posts)Whose side are you on?
Mass
(27,315 posts)and we can only hope the White House and the DSCC will help us this time.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)As much as I think Kerry deserves the spot, and would do one hell of a job, until there are no Snot Brown's hiding in the weeds, he needs to stay put.
patrice
(47,992 posts)reconsider you point of view, if you will.
Or not, 'cause that's okay too.
politicasista
(14,128 posts)(not you ) who want Kerry to stay put will follow what he does as Senator Kerry? It's interesting to see people come out the woodwork and say how "effective" Kerry is as Senator, but didn't K or R threads where he did positive things.
patrice
(47,992 posts)energy development.
As I understand The Real Deal in '04 was predicated on that work.
...................................
(I won't remind us all how sad it is that he lost.)
politicasista
(14,128 posts)Would be ok with General Clark or Richardson. The real, genuine concerns about Kerry staying put me can understand, the others who are just using this as "I am soooo scared of Brown" seem questionable.
Hopefully, both he and Obama will do what is best. (they will).
patrice
(47,992 posts)too, just uncertain of him in relationship to MIC with all of this ENERGY stuff going down.
politicasista
(14,128 posts)Mass
(27,315 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)Mass
(27,315 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)I trust everyone around him, a la the Geitner-esque cohort.
xxxsdesdexxx
(213 posts)he was being vetted and all of the sudden he wasn't being considered due to circumstances -- still not sure what those were. Does anyone know?
patrice
(47,992 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)karynnj
(59,504 posts)Look into what happened with the NM vote - especially in Native American areas - in 2004. In addition, he has BAGGAGE.
patrice
(47,992 posts)the vote topics you suggest.
karynnj
(59,504 posts)JohnnyBoots
(2,969 posts)What's Bill Richardson up to these days?
politicasista
(14,128 posts)Besides this thread does nothing but bring out Kerry bashers/haters alike.
Mad the bullies won, but it probably means that Obama didn't want this fight. Instead, just going to continue to watch and let the POTUS make the final decision.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)DakotaLady
(246 posts)by others here on DU that I like are Robert Reich and Wesley Clark..
elleng
(131,006 posts)Mass
(27,315 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, I think he's the odds-on-favorite right now.
budkin
(6,703 posts)I miss that pickup truck!
Warpy
(111,292 posts)Even Stupid had to call him in to negotiate with N. Korea when he'd bungled things so completely. He's known and respected around the world. He is simply the best choice.
The only question is whether or not he'd take it. Republicans would shriek, of course, they always do.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Though the Republicans don't like him, as much as they don't like Ms. Rice, he seems to be one of Obama's (and Biden's) most trusted advisors, and his name has been in contention. From a NYT article this fall:
Mr. Donilon is the one who wakes the president when an ambassador is killed in Libya, the one who tries to keep Israel from rupturing relations and Egypt from heading off track. Solutions to intractable problems like Irans nuclear program are for another day. For now, it is Mr. Donilons mission to manage problems and keep them from blowing up, so Mr. Obama can focus on Mitt Romney rather than Benjamin Netanyahu. ...
If anyone can manage it, colleagues say, it is Mr. Donilon. Tom can keep 10 important things in his head at once while juggling others in the air, trying to avoid any falling to the ground, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said. Jacob S. Lew, the White House chief of staff, said Mr. Donilon ensures that we dont end up just with all the grains of sand but we see how all the issues connect.
Mr. Biden, whose wife, Jill, employs Mr. Donilons wife, Cathy Russell, as her chief of staff, said Mr. Donilon channels Mr. Obama. In a sense, he kind of thinks like the president, Mr. Biden said. Tom knows where the president wants to go. Tom knows when the president wants to go left, straight, up or down
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/24/us/politics/tom-donilon-a-manager-of-overseas-crises.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
elleng
(131,006 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)no, thanks
elleng
(131,006 posts)the show was continued.
And those who don't consider him for SOS, SOD, or National Security, are foolish.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)elleng
(131,006 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Pick the guy that WON his war.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Wes is perfect for the job and he's used to dealing and negotiating with heads of state.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)old guy
(3,283 posts)Our choice would be meaningless unless John approves.
Mr.Bill
(24,305 posts)Just to watch the republican's heads explode.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)I am for just about anything that makes Republican heads explode.
LeftInTX
(25,424 posts)To really make heads explode
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)He did great work in Burma/Myanmar and laid the groundwork for Hillary to get reforms there.
He's a respected name with a good resume, and he'd take zero seats out of the senate.
If not him, there's always Richardson, Gore, Daschle and plenty of others that won't lead to Scott Brown 2.0 and give the GOP what they want.
Texin
(2,596 posts)My take was he just loathed the Beltway mentality and the hostile infighting in politics. Would he even be amenable to returning to D.C. so soon?
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Gothmog
(145,375 posts)I do not want to reward McCain and his fellow idiots for their bad conduct
aandegoons
(473 posts)Sickening
patrice
(47,992 posts)a mistake.
aandegoons
(473 posts)That and there are approximately 115 million better democrats in this country.
patrice
(47,992 posts)the situation for encouraging his boss to disobey his boss?
Also, how do we know exactly what Wilkerson did or did not do? Couldn't he have had "the talk" and Powell decided against his advice?
If he did have "the talk" it is very likely that he should have had it in stronger terms than he apparently did, even to the point of offering to resign, so you point is valid, but I'm not sure that I know enough about this.
Did you see Wilkerson beat up on Cheney on the Ed Show Tuesday night? It was a genuinely wide-ranging critique. I was impressed. I was also impressed with him in '04 when he backed Kerry on energy issues against the War on Terror. He was saying then that the greatest threat to American security is environmental/energy not Muslim terrorists.
I really do like Kerry better and was a little surprised when he wasn't nominated in '08.
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)Think about it: governed a state with a significant international profile, already served in the cabinet, currently a very effective ambassador to China. He'd be a great choice.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)very competent choice
EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)Clark and Howard Dean are two great Dems Obama has failed to utilized.
elleng
(131,006 posts)and rationale for failure to make public use of Wes has baffled, puzzled, and annoyed me.
politicasista
(14,128 posts)It's not Kerry's fault why Dean and Clark haven't been promoted. Don't know why people and Dems are making Kerry the enemy. He hasn't said anything.
If people have an issue with Obama slighting them, let him or the WH know.
That said, would not have a problem with the General in a cabinet spot.
elleng
(131,006 posts)(even tho he appears to have slighted Wes when deciding who would be his/kerry's V.P. nominee.)
AND at the moment I don't see Kerry as enemy, but am concerned about retaining his Senate seat.
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EmeraldCityGrl
(4,310 posts)The SOS position is going to require such a highly qualified skill set there
really are not that many candidates I feel comfortable with.
Kerry is absolutely qualified but there is the obvious "concern"
with 2014 not looking like an opportunity to pick-up many
senate seats elsewhere.
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Jack Sprat
(2,500 posts)I want the President to call her into conference, reaffirm his faith in her for the job, and appoint her as his choice for SOS. I want him to show some leadership with some brass for a change.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)you know why I missed your post?
Because I am so friggen pissed off I can't see straight!
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)Susan Rice.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)He could easily present his resignation to the President and start his campaign. Granted since presidential campaigns now begin the day after the previous presidential election, he would have nearly not time to serve as SoS but service in the Cabinet doesn't make someone ineligible to run for President.
Swede Atlanta
(3,596 posts)jerseygal
(67 posts)Wesley Clark would be my first choice, but I would also consider Richard Lugar (good on nonproliferation treaty), Jon Huntsman (although this would make him formidable for 2016), Bill Richardson and maybe Chuck Hagel.
For Secretary of Defense, how about Joe Sestak? Or Jim Webb? Or maybe it looks like it is going to be Hagel anyway.
Then there is always Joe Lieberman but I would vote to make him the first Ambassador to the new Palestinian State - that's karma biting you in the behind.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)I do still have a soft spot for him, and all of his contractual/legal 'cannot take whatever position' stuff should be well-over by now ...
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Here's a list of Ambassadors http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ambassadors_of_the_United_States
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)He's probably the most qualified candidate for the job, given his experience in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.