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davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:16 PM Dec 2012

Can we really trust Charlie Crist?

Say he runs for governor and beats Rick Scott. What happens if he gets to Tallahassee and has to deal with a Republican legislature and he suddenly turns back to being a conservative again? Maybe he and the GOP will decide to bury the hatchet.

So in other words, are we that desperate to get rid of Scott that we are willing to throw aside real liberals and roll the dice on a political chameleon who just 4 years ago said Sarah Palin would make a great president?

Also he left the GOP when he was getting creamed by Rubio in the primary and then ran as an independent, which actually split the Democrat vote in the general election. How do we know he won't do the same thing in the Democratic primary for governor? What if he runs in the primary and then loses, will he run as an independent again? He'll end up splitting the vote again and Rick Scott walks back into office.

Have fun with that....I don't trust this guy for a minute. I know it might be cool to use this guy against Republicans. But this has a significant probability of backfiring horribly.

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Can we really trust Charlie Crist? (Original Post) davidn3600 Dec 2012 OP
Don't know him well enough to say Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2012 #1
so he's not ideologically pure enough for you? dlwickham Dec 2012 #2
He's a bleached out Romney - will say anything to get ahead csziggy Dec 2012 #10
and you'd be wrong dlwickham Dec 2012 #16
As much as Rahm Emanuel. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #3
Charlie Crist is a good guy katmondoo Dec 2012 #4
oh noes! dlwickham Dec 2012 #17
I voted for him as well... LP2K12 Dec 2012 #18
Crist was always ten times better than Scott. geek tragedy Dec 2012 #5
I trust him. When he was governor, he extended voting hours. He's a good guy. My parents live in jenmito Dec 2012 #6
I have no problem voting for him . . . DrDan Dec 2012 #7
I don't trust him. While I don't deny he's better than Rick Scott, okwmember Dec 2012 #8
Crist is the Gumby of Florida politics GatorOrange Dec 2012 #9
There are no real liberals quaker bill Dec 2012 #11
Nobody's perfect! yortsed snacilbuper Dec 2012 #12
I don't think Charlie Crist can ever go home again to the GOP, nor would he wish to. politicaljunkie41910 Dec 2012 #13
I will be voting for him horsedoc Dec 2012 #14
Crist became a lot better after switching parties, party switchers tend to have major voting changes ShadowLiberal Dec 2012 #15

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,416 posts)
1. Don't know him well enough to say
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:20 PM
Dec 2012

Of course, if he wanted to be a real weasel, he'd just label himself an "independent" and call it a day.



csziggy

(34,136 posts)
10. He's a bleached out Romney - will say anything to get ahead
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:42 PM
Dec 2012

For the moment. I wouldn't trust him to tell the truth if he said the sun came up in the East this morning.

katmondoo

(6,457 posts)
4. Charlie Crist is a good guy
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:38 PM
Dec 2012

Just look at what we in Florida have now. A real Repug weasel. Crist was a good Governor. I voted for him before and will support him again. I never ever voted Republican before, but I made an exception with him. I wish you would not lump him in the mold of other Republican's who have changed sides.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
5. Crist was always ten times better than Scott.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:41 PM
Dec 2012

See his voter protection and Everglades policies for an example.

He is, of course, a politician.

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
6. I trust him. When he was governor, he extended voting hours. He's a good guy. My parents live in
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 05:44 PM
Dec 2012

and like him (and Obama). He was always considered a RINO. Remember "the hug" which pretty much got him kicked out of the party?

okwmember

(345 posts)
8. I don't trust him. While I don't deny he's better than Rick Scott,
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:09 PM
Dec 2012

his reputation here in Florida is a guy who changes with the wind. He'll say whatever he thinks will
win him his next office. Right now the state is slowly moving to the center and his views are moving that way. One of things I'm most interested in seeing are his current views on our state's education system. As the last elected Education Commissioner, he worked right along with Jeb to start up the state's rush to privatize our public schools and dole out public dollars to private companies to run charter schools.

I will give him credit for his governance on abortion. While he says he is anti-abortion, he did foil several legislative attempts to basically outlaw abortion at the end of his last term. Its one of the reasons, the right turned on him in the primary with Rubio.

GatorOrange

(63 posts)
9. Crist is the Gumby of Florida politics
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:25 PM
Dec 2012

He simply puts his finger in the air to see which way the political winds are blowing that day and bends accordingly. He was responsible for a massive (and unnecessary) property tax cut that was a dream come true for the high rollers. I like Crist jumping on board and I respect the good things he did; but he's still opportunistic Chain Gang Charlie to me.

Seeing their respective body language together, I cant help but think that our President genuinely likes Crist on a personal level and sees much common ground with him. I trust the Presidents judgement here and I know the main goal will be building an even bigger tent to compete/eventually defeat the FL. GOP at a statewide level. Little steps on a path to bigger and better things.

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
11. There are no real liberals
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 06:51 PM
Dec 2012

who can pull together a viable campaign for Fl Gov. You might think there is an alternative, but there really isn't.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
13. I don't think Charlie Crist can ever go home again to the GOP, nor would he wish to.
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:04 PM
Dec 2012

As he has said, the party left him. I happen to like him and think he is a good fit for the Democratic Party.

horsedoc

(81 posts)
14. I will be voting for him
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:09 PM
Dec 2012

In Florida it is going to take a moderate to take the Governorship and Christ is pretty moderate. Anyone but Scott please!

ShadowLiberal

(2,237 posts)
15. Crist became a lot better after switching parties, party switchers tend to have major voting changes
Thu Dec 13, 2012, 07:42 PM
Dec 2012

If you look at party switchers in congress, you see they always tend to have significant changes to their voting record at sites that analyze how liberal/conservative politicians are.

Also, Crist is still young enough to have dreams of holding other elected offices in the future in Florida, even a career as a private citizen who makes some money off their fame as a governor would be helped more at this point by a shift in a liberal direction, since he's already a traitor in republican's eyes.

Also, I'd gladly rather have a 50/50 moderate then a radical corrupt bastard like Scott who tries to personally profit off his time in office, like his drug testing bill that just happens to benefit a drug testing company he owns stock in.

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