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robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:03 AM Nov 2016

When is the recount deadline for NORTH CAROLINA? If it hasn't passed, it should NOT be ignored!

While I am highly encouraged that the examination of a team of computer scientists found evidence that vote totals in three states, Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, could have been manipulated or hacked has lead Jill Stein to raise money for a recount in those states, I am puzzled as to why she is not including North Carolina even though they apparently weren't examined in that study. There is a much larger discrepancy between the exit poll and state vote count at 5.9%, which Jonathan Simon calls "way outside the margin of error for that poll and therefore very unlikely to occur by chance."

So the only reason I can think of why North Carolina is being excluded, and their 15 electoral votes going to Trump uncontested, is because their deadline to file for a recount has already passed. Does anyone know if this is the case or is their still a chance to file?

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When is the recount deadline for NORTH CAROLINA? If it hasn't passed, it should NOT be ignored! (Original Post) robertpaulsen Nov 2016 OP
Stein was not on the ballot in NC yodermon Nov 2016 #1
Ah, that might be the reason. robertpaulsen Nov 2016 #6
NC's recount laws aren't as open as the ones that are on the current target list FBaggins Nov 2016 #2
Do you know if they will recount presidential race too when recounting on McRory's request? LisaL Nov 2016 #3
Most recounts are for just that race. FBaggins Nov 2016 #4
Well, in theory, somebody outside US who wants Trump elected wouldn't actually care if McCrory was LisaL Nov 2016 #5

yodermon

(6,143 posts)
1. Stein was not on the ballot in NC
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:24 AM
Nov 2016

Dunno of that is the reason.
McCrory is seeking a recount though cuz he LOST, ha ha. Don't know if the retally all candidates when they do a recount

robertpaulsen

(8,632 posts)
6. Ah, that might be the reason.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 02:29 PM
Nov 2016

Too bad, I think the Presidential race is the one that needs the recount, not the Governor's race.

FBaggins

(26,742 posts)
2. NC's recount laws aren't as open as the ones that are on the current target list
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 12:41 AM
Nov 2016

The vote has to be within .5%

There is a "protest" option that any registered voter can bring, but that has to be approved by the county boards of elections (Republican) and is only appealed to the state board (also Republican).

However - McCrory lost narrowly and has already called for a recount. Discrepancies could show up in that race that might be useful if something underhanded actually happened here.

Having said that, I think the chances that Clinton actually won here are essentially nil.

FBaggins

(26,742 posts)
4. Most recounts are for just that race.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:25 AM
Nov 2016

Certainly hand recounts of paper ballots (common here in NC) would not look at all of the other races.

In this case, I think the recount is just running the ballots through the same counting machines as before (which probably means that the other races are totaled) but the only reporting would be of the race that's being recounted. There would have to be something obviously wrong noticed in some precinct in order to catch an issue in the presidential race (assuming their was one, which doesn't appear likely).

What I was thinking was that the same imagined sources that would have rigged the count for Trump would very likely to be trying to keep McCrory in place. If something outside of normal errors pops up in the gubernatorial race, that could open inquiries into the presidential returns.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
5. Well, in theory, somebody outside US who wants Trump elected wouldn't actually care if McCrory was
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 11:27 AM
Nov 2016

elected.

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