2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBarney Frank Looks for the Bright Side of Trump's Win
Barney Frank, long known as Americas crankiest liberal, is actually not feeling too bad. Frank retired from Congress in 2012, after three decades of representing Massachusettss Fourth District, then wrote a memoir, became a director of the Signature Bank, and took his curmudgeon act on the road as a lecturer. But the election of Donald Trump has not shattered his confidence about the nations political future. This was not a wipeout. People will tend to overinterpret it. Remember, we got more votes than they did, he said, in an interview this week. And there is one silver living for us. They have succeeded in blaming us for everything that goes wrong in the world. From now on, anything bad that happens is on them. They control the whole governmentWhite House, Senate, House, Supreme Court. Some people think that maybe Trump can somehow evade that responsibility, but I think it will be hard to blame it on some Mexicans when something goes wrong.
Still, Frank believes that politics did change in some fundamental ways with Trumps victory. Two major rules of American politics disappeared this year, he said. The first was that you had to argue that America has to be strong and assertive worldwide. Trump won while rejecting that view. And the second change was that you should only talk about growth for everyone and avoid talk of class warfare. The fundamental reason that Trump won is the anger in America and other developed countries at the unfairness of the distribution of wealth. Its been building and building, and all of a sudden it broke through.
In particular, Frank believes that Bernie Sanderss primary campaign helped Trumps portrayal of himself as a populist succeed in the fall. Sanders wounded her badly, Frank said, referring to Hillary Clinton. His differing with her on the issues was entirely reasonable, but hes the one who sold the argument that she was corrupt and bought by Wall Street. He had one ad which I called McCarthyitewhere he essentially said Goldman Sachs got off so easy because they paid Clinton for speeches. Sanders helped Trump become the guy who says we are tired of rich guys getting away with everything. Sanders helped persuade people that she is on the wrong side of that issue. Then, too, of course, there were the e-mails and the last-minute intervention of James Comey, the F.B.I. director. If she hadnt been using that e-mail system, she would have won, and Comey exacerbated the problem, Frank said.
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First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...and the media and the GOP sheeple will let them get away with it. Fox news will be on the case overtime. It's all Obama's fault. Just wait and see.
Nay
(12,051 posts)ludicrous -- they were blaming Obama for 9/11 for a while there!! And Obama for the first bank bailout, which Bush did! Of course they're going to continue blaming Democrats!
CrispyQ
(36,470 posts)That's what primaries are for - to vet the candidates. Sanders had every right, no, a duty, to point out the flaws in candidate Clinton. Besides, it's not like Sanders was the only person on the planet who saw these conflicts of interest. If anyone is to blame, it's the media, who never held Don the Con to the same standards as HRC. They should have been all over the Con for his tax returns, his lawsuits, his stiffing contractors, but they pretty much let that go & so he was allowed to lie about being a populist.
If the dems want to put this loss on Bernie, then they will continue to lose.
BeyondGeography
(39,374 posts)We knew that.
We also knew that the GS speeches were a major problem. Not Bernie's fault that he said the obvious. Actually, he gave her a chance to clear the decks on that one, and she stonewalled. That's what primaries are supposed to be for; vetting the candidates so there are no surprises in the GE. Barney and many others in the HRC camp would have preferred this didn't happen. That's how you end up with suboptimal candidates.
onecaliberal
(32,861 posts)ucrdem
(15,512 posts)If she'd used State Dept email she would have been so compromised and hacked she wouldn't have been able to function. And if email-gate hadn't been available they would have found something else, or gone with benghazi-gate, or bimbo-gate, or a term paper she wrote in 1969, or who knows what.