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How can anyone trust Jill Stein after what she said about Hillary just a month ago? (Original Post) mtnsnake Nov 2016 OP
Desperate people do desperate things, I guess. LisaL Nov 2016 #1
oberliner has a thread that suggests that Stein is doing this as a way of getting guillaumeb Nov 2016 #2
Or deflecting attention from Russia's role in distributing propaganda- because it helped her? bettyellen Nov 2016 #8
I have little respect for Stein's actions. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #10
Agreed. I thought Joy's take on this is intersting.... that she is aiding the Russians and it bettyellen Nov 2016 #12
If she manages to prove electoral fraud, and flips the presidency to Hillary DFW Nov 2016 #9
Agreed with your point on tampering. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #11
I don't have any reason, as of now, to NOT trust her Lucinda Nov 2016 #3
You can't. She is mentally bankrupt. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #4
Bingo, she is cashing in on our angst Amishman Nov 2016 #5
Yup. And now that she's raised an excess of the intended amount, what will she do with the excess? mtnsnake Nov 2016 #6
She did not raise an excess - she needs 7 million at a minimum womanofthehills Nov 2016 #14
I don't buy that- she moved the goal amount every time she came close to reaching it... bettyellen Nov 2016 #16
At this point who cares about her ego - she is the one who is getting the votes counted womanofthehills Nov 2016 #13
Votes have been counted. LisaL Nov 2016 #15
I didn't say it was bad. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #17
We're back down farleftlib Nov 2016 #7
If Charlie Manson was all that stood between Trump & the coup d'etat... VOX Nov 2016 #18

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. oberliner has a thread that suggests that Stein is doing this as a way of getting
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:21 PM
Nov 2016

attention. It is an interesting viewpoint.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. I have little respect for Stein's actions.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:48 PM
Nov 2016

In my view she is an attention seeker who shows no interest in building a Green Party. A once every four year effort does not build anything. If it did, the Green Party would have attracted more voters and votes.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. Agreed. I thought Joy's take on this is intersting.... that she is aiding the Russians and it
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:51 PM
Nov 2016

It's a win/win for them as well as her and the Greens

DFW

(54,384 posts)
9. If she manages to prove electoral fraud, and flips the presidency to Hillary
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:23 PM
Nov 2016

She'll have done something no one else did. She'll be owed some serious dues. Cynical voices can claim that she is only a tool of Putin trying to cover all his bases, but that is a risk I'd take if it means the Electoral College declares that it is Hillary that gets sworn in on January 20th and not Trump.

On the other hand, IF there was any tampering, and it wouldn't surprise me to hear there was some, it was probably done by people sophisticated enough to have covered their tracks well enough to not have their work traceable at this point. Each hard drive would have to be forensically examined by experts who know what to look for. Keep in mind that in Ohio, 2004, only ONE voting machine out of all the ones used was forensically examined. In a precinct with 600 registered voters, it gave Bush 3000 votes. That was called a "glitch," and NONE of the other machines was similarly examined before the hard drives were wiped clean. The Ohio Secretary of State, who was (a mere coincidence, you understand) also the chairman of the Ohio Bush re-election committee, was only too happy to leave it that, since in 2004, the candidate who won Ohio won the White House.

Maybe Jill Stein is just having an Alec Guinness "What have I done (Bridge on The River Kwai)" moment, and wants to rectify it? I don't care. SOMEONE should be doing what she is doing, if for no other reason than to put this aspect of the election to rest. As for Comey and the media, I say, "lock 'em up!"

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
11. Agreed with your point on tampering.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:50 PM
Nov 2016

And if election integrity were a Federal concern and if it were overseen by a Federal agency perhaps many of these problems would not exist. There is no good reason that partisan officeholders should oversea elections that affect their parties and positions.

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
3. I don't have any reason, as of now, to NOT trust her
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:22 PM
Nov 2016

It's in her interest to do this...first because she looks like a hero for insuring voting integrity...and secondly, I don't think she thought Trump would win, and this is yet another way to look good with the majority of the country, if the election shifts to Hillary.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. You can't. She is mentally bankrupt.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:23 PM
Nov 2016

She has raised well over the requested amount. This is a GP fund raiser. She has the ego of Trump.

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
5. Bingo, she is cashing in on our angst
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 03:55 PM
Nov 2016

This is a win/win for her.

Find fraud? It weakens the Republicans and boosts her party's profile

Don't find fraud? Still gets publicity and favorable press in liberal circles for standing up to Trump

Either way, the law firms selected for the suits certainly have a favorable relationship with her party and money will flow to the Green's coffers

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)
6. Yup. And now that she's raised an excess of the intended amount, what will she do with the excess?
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:43 PM
Nov 2016

Donate it to a good cause? I don't think so. Jill Stein loathes Hillary to the extent that she said in that video that she prefers Trump over Hillary.

I don't know the real reason why Stein is doing this, but she isn't doing it for the purpose of seeing Hillary win. Maybe all of a sudden she's mad at Trump for not offering her a cabinet position or something. Who the heck knows.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
16. I don't buy that- she moved the goal amount every time she came close to reaching it...
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 08:08 PM
Nov 2016

Doesn't past the smell test.

womanofthehills

(8,710 posts)
13. At this point who cares about her ego - she is the one who is getting the votes counted
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:55 PM
Nov 2016

People would rather hate Jill Stein than get the voted counted. I could care less why she is doing it - it's wonderful she is doing it.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
15. Votes have been counted.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 08:07 PM
Nov 2016

People expect a miracle and I very much doubt anything like this is going to happen.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
17. I didn't say it was bad.
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 08:12 PM
Nov 2016

I'm very interested to see how this goes forward. Neither of those statements conflict with my lack of trust in her.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
18. If Charlie Manson was all that stood between Trump & the coup d'etat...
Fri Nov 25, 2016, 08:57 PM
Nov 2016

I'd throw a few bucks at Manson. It's desperate, admittedly, but its kitchen-sink-tossing time.

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