2016 Postmortem

boston bean

(36,221 posts) Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:15 PM Nov 2016

I really do not like Jill Stein. But I do like the idea of verifying the vote.

So, I gave $50 bucks along with a little faith she does the right thing.

That is all. Think I'm a dumbass? Ok. Whatevs. You wouldn't be the first one to ever think such a thing.

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I really do not like Jill Stein. But I do like the idea of verifying the vote. (Original Post) boston bean Nov 2016 OP

I don't think you are a dumbass ... never have etherealtruth Nov 2016 #1

I know.. it is a leap of faith. I hear you. boston bean Nov 2016 #6

WI election commission doesn't even know the actual cost: ucrdem Nov 2016 #2

As long as you go in with open eyes 50 is a bargain for the peace of mind. NWCorona Nov 2016 #3

We are going to see. She is either going to make a good name or become a pariah. boston bean Nov 2016 #7

Truth NWCorona Nov 2016 #12

I like that approach BainsBane Nov 2016 #13

I don't think you are a dumbass. NCTraveler Nov 2016 #4

Could this be the pebble that starts an avalanche? anamnua Nov 2016 #5

She is scamming you oberliner Nov 2016 #8

I don't feel scammed. My eyes are wide open. boston bean Nov 2016 #9

Fair enough oberliner Nov 2016 #11

We gave 50 Bettie Nov 2016 #10

I am with you Bean Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #14

This is what Greg Palast's Exclusive has to say: Jill Stein called them on 11-23-16 that Cal33 Nov 2016 #15

I hear you. Same here. Silver Gaia Nov 2016 #16

I am cautiously optimistic. MoonRiver Nov 2016 #17

What does it hurt? boston bean Nov 2016 #19

Same here riverwalker Nov 2016 #18

I like the idea, too, but I'd have a lot more hope if it was Hillary who called for the vote recount mtnsnake Nov 2016 #20

Hillary Clinton lives in the real world EL34x4 Nov 2016 #21

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)

1. I don't think you are a dumbass ... never have

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:27 PM

Nov 2016

I just don't trust Jill Stein ... never have

boston bean

(36,221 posts)

6. I know.. it is a leap of faith. I hear you.

Reply to etherealtruth (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:10 PM

Nov 2016

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)

2. WI election commission doesn't even know the actual cost:

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:30 PM

Nov 2016

Stein's campaign says it has raised $4.8 million this week for its recount efforts and estimates the Wisconsin recount will cost $1.1 million.

The Wisconsin Election Commission has asked municipal clerks to estimate their costs for a recount. A total estimate is expected to be compiled next week because many clerks are out of the office for the Thanksgiving holiday, said Michael Haas, the administrator of the commission.

But it sounds like she's making it happen so knock on wood.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)

3. As long as you go in with open eyes 50 is a bargain for the peace of mind.

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:33 PM

Nov 2016

There's just too many questions

boston bean

(36,221 posts)

7. We are going to see. She is either going to make a good name or become a pariah.

Reply to NWCorona (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:11 PM

Nov 2016

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)

12. Truth

Reply to boston bean (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:04 PM

Nov 2016

BainsBane

(53,034 posts)

13. I like that approach

Reply to NWCorona (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:42 PM

Nov 2016

Go in with open eyes.

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)

4. I don't think you are a dumbass.

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:40 PM

Nov 2016

I do think Stein is not worthy of anyone's trust. How can both of those statements stand true? You never said you trust her and the $50 is worth the possibility she actually moves forward with this in a righteous manner. It could be money well spent. Could also go toward the promotion of an ego driven fraud. While I have drawn my own conclusion, Stein has done good work before. I'm not an absolutist. I hope this leads to an additional level of scrutiny on the election.

anamnua

(1,112 posts)

5. Could this be the pebble that starts an avalanche?

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 04:55 PM

Nov 2016

Last edited Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Like Woodward and Bernstein's Watergate articles.

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

8. She is scamming you

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:21 PM

Nov 2016

It is unfortunate that she is taking so much money from so many good people and will use it to fight against Democrats like she aggressively did vis-a-vis Hillary Clinton whom she despises.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)

9. I don't feel scammed. My eyes are wide open.

Reply to oberliner (Reply #8)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:23 PM

Nov 2016

oberliner

(58,724 posts)

11. Fair enough

Reply to boston bean (Reply #9)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:24 PM

Nov 2016

I'm still annoyed at what she is doing. But I respect where you are coming from.

Bettie

(16,110 posts)

10. We gave 50

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 05:24 PM

Nov 2016

Faith...well, she's at least asking the right questions.

Grey Lemercier

(1,429 posts)

14. I am with you Bean

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 06:53 PM

Nov 2016

I would rather toss a grand to a potential good thing than a another pair of Louboutins.

Cal33

(7,018 posts)

15. This is what Greg Palast's Exclusive has to say: Jill Stein called them on 11-23-16 that

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:06 PM

Nov 2016

she will be filing recount Friday 11-25-16 In WI, MI and Pa:

http://www.gregpalast.com/exclusive-jill-stein-just-called-green-party-filing-recount-michigan-wisconsin-pennsylvania/

Silver Gaia

(4,544 posts)

16. I hear you. Same here.

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:19 PM

Nov 2016

But so far, she is doing what she said she would, so... so far so good.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)

17. I am cautiously optimistic.

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 07:29 PM

Nov 2016

I don't know what her motives are, but if they produce a recount, good.

boston bean

(36,221 posts)

19. What does it hurt?

Reply to MoonRiver (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 10:05 AM

Nov 2016

It would have hurt dems is Hillary asked for it.

Cause they would have just cut her up one side down the other as being a sore loser. And whiny dems.

We got the best of both worlds right here, I think. Let's see how it plays out.

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)

18. Same here

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Fri Nov 25, 2016, 09:28 PM

Nov 2016

Do not trust or like her, but the thought of four years of tRump <shudder>. So I donated money as well, now almost excited to see what it reveals. Raising 5.1 million dollars in ~48 hours has to be a record, and sends a message to tRump: America hates you, they really hate you.

mtnsnake

(22,236 posts)

20. I like the idea, too, but I'd have a lot more hope if it was Hillary who called for the vote recount

Reply to boston bean (Original post)

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 10:52 AM

Nov 2016

instead of appealing to the voters to accept the fact that Trump is going to be our president (Hillary's words, not mine!!) and that we owe him an open mind and the chance to lead......(puke).

I guess all we can do is hope something big turns up, but I'm just as curious about Hillary's silence in calling for a vote recount as I am about Stein's motives to do this.

EL34x4

(2,003 posts)

21. Hillary Clinton lives in the real world

Reply to mtnsnake (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 26, 2016, 11:03 AM

Nov 2016

And knows that a recount isn't going to find the tens of thousands of votes necessary to overturn the election.

She's also not going to dignify her opponent, Jill Stein's shameless money grab with her blessing.

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