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Related: About this forumRepublican congressman says Sandy Hook principal should have had a machine gun
so she could 'take his head off before he killed those precious kids'
By Meghan Keneally
PUBLISHED: 15:01 EST, 16 December 2012 | UPDATED: 15:04 EST, 16 December 2012
A Republican Congressman said that elementary school principals should be armed and have access to assault rifles in order to kill potential shooters.
Representative Louie Gohmert theorized that if the principal at Sandy Hook Elementary School had an M-4 rifle in her office, then she would have been able to shoot Adam Lanza before he proceeded to kill 20 students and six adults at the Newtown, Connecticut school.
'I wish to God she had had an M-4 in her office, locked up so when she heard gunfire, she pulls it out and she didnt have to lunge heroically with nothing in her hands and takes him out and takes his head off before he can kill those precious kids,' he said ...
By contrast, the Texas congressman feels that any infringement on the Second Amendment, which gives Americans the right to bare arms, would be an overly sentimental response ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2249069/Republican-congressman-says-Sandy-Hook-principal-machine-gun-head-killed-precious-kids.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
Gin
(7,212 posts)We become?
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)try to stun your opponents into impotent sputtering or gape-jawed incredulous silence, by the sheer asininity of your remarks
If he were serious, he would propose some Sandy Hook Memorial Machine Gun law, establishing a requirement to emplace a large clip high calibre automatic weapon in the main office of every public school that receives federal funding
He doesn't actually propose it, because he would be shunted off to an asylum for electroshock therapy and a free lobotomy if he did
But he does the next best thing, which is to stun you into silence by his incredibly inane remarks
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)the technique is a variation of the "Gish Gallop", a Creationist debate tactice wherein you spew so many outrageous statements that your opponent cannot possibly debunk them all, let alone make their own points.
Siwsan
(26,269 posts)Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)Rep. Gomer's asinine solution is no exception to his phenomenon
struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)you still have to go through security to get into any of the House Office Buildings, and they won't let you bring in your gun
That doesn't upset GOP gun-gangsters like Gohmert
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)bad enough you have to debate people like this on the internet or at the gym, but this moron is one of the 500 most powerful people in this country.
I fleshed this out with someone on another message board he just did not get it.
The whole theory behind this is that these people choose places that are fire arm free, so therefor, all you need is for someone to have a gun there and it would not happen.
SO, everyone of the 10s of thousands of school buildings in this country would have guns in them, then all preschool and child are facilities, all churches, movie theatres, sports stadiums, stores, restaurants ... Any place that more than one person gathers will have to have a weapon on the premises with people constantly on the clock who have been trained to use them as well as trained in general combat.
He threw a snit, of course, about how I was being ridiculous in simply layout out what he suggested.
Just childish, and no concept of what they are advocating for.
Again, bad enough the average Joe, but sadly, FAR from the only congresstwit who is going to spew this nonsense.
JeffHead
(1,186 posts)Since she was in a conference room across the hall from the classrooms at the time. Ghomert is an idiot!
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-timeline-newtown-shooting-1216-20121215,0,1878564.story
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Had a gun this never would have happened. How could the principal let us all down like that.
Where do these assholes come from anyways. Too bad the principal didn't have any SAMS. That would have taken care of the scum real fast.
GreenPartyVoter
(72,378 posts)gun might have wrought on those kids. (Or, if the aggressor had overpowered the principal and then becomes armed with it himself..... I can only imagine...)
lob1
(3,820 posts)targetpractice
(4,919 posts)More gunfire. That's the ticket.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)It starts with the idea of a "well armed" militia. We already have a national guard. They have cherry picked only the words they want to hear for their own advantage.
The safety and general welfare trumps any individual or group of individuals right to carry a lethal weapon anywhere they want. These bullies are as paranoid about government and the majority as the shooter was in his own little mind. Other people die because of the damned ignorant excuses. The rest of us refuse to play along.
Journeyman
(15,036 posts)but then, that's just me. I've always been a little off.
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)People say ... where was God in all of this? We've threatened high school graduation participations, if they use God's name, they're going to be jailed ... I mean that kind of stuff. Where was God? What have we done with God? We don't want him around. I kind of like his protective hand being present." Gohmert went on to say "It does make me wonder, with all those people in the theater, was there nobody that was carrying a gun that could have stopped this guy more quickly?"
Where does the Texas Republican Party keep finding these morons?
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)Yes, it is possible to be ready to respond to somebody shooting at you. Soldiers in combat zones do it all the time. It simply requires that you be on alert 24/7 and take your gun everywhere you go, even to the bathroom.
The problem is that being alert 24/7 is a full time job in and of itself. You can't be a soldier in a combat zone and be the principal of a school at the same time. The human brain is just not capable of it.
The idea that someone can be working their day job and suddenly pull out their M-4 and take the head off a shooter whenever they need to is just ridiculous.
jmowreader
(50,560 posts)If we're going to go, go all the way.
If you go to the Frankfurt airport you will see pairs of Polizei walking around with MP5 submachineguns in their hands, just in case someone tries some terrorism.
If they can do it so can we. Start a federal machine gun corps. Put two-man teams armed with Uzis in public places:
10 teams in a school
15 teams in a big box store
25 teams in a mall
30 teams in a Walmart on Black Friday
Carefully screen so there won't be teabaggers.
Who could possibly object to that?
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)struggle4progress
(118,295 posts)Steve Blow
sblow@dallasnews.com
Published: 15 December 2012 11:04 PM
I was born and raised in Tyler. So naturally Im proud to see my East Texas city in the news.
But theres one mention that almost always makes me cringe. Its whenever I see a news story with the words:
said U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert, R-Tyler. ...
Gohmert has become a regular on the Fox News Channel, where he can be counted on to say something not just conservative but borderline kooky ...
Just days ago, the U.S. House voted to remove the archaic word lunatic from federal laws referring to the mentally ill. The vote was 398-1. And of course you know who that one was ...
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/columnists/steve-blow/20121215-u.s.-rep.-louie-gohmert-does-no-favors-for-tyler--or-america.ece
NICO9000
(970 posts)This is really beyond the pale.
D_Master81
(1,822 posts)why doesnt the school just equip a functioning cannon at the doorway to blow away suspected shooters as well? That way they never enter the building.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)attached to their heads?
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)The shark would demand it's lazor and the chimp it's assualt weapon.
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Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)You know that big rubber-bottomed floor mat that's right inside the front door? You could dig a big pit and put a Burmese Tiger at the bottom, so when the shooter comes in through the front door, he falls into the hole and is eaten by the tiger.
Might be a problem at recess, so I'll have to get back to you on that one.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)How many will it take? 600 million? 900? 5 guns per citizen? How about a bazooka per household??
These idiots are devoid of logical reasoning capability.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)the principal comes charging out with a machine gun?
What could go wrong in that scenario?
Grown2Hate
(2,013 posts)FREAKING MACHINE GUN!)? There were 100 great responses before this one, but I had to ask.
Permanut
(5,613 posts)sharks with lasers. SAMS, bazookas, 900 million guns and a cannon. Looks like plenty of material for the NRA lobbyists to work on next year. RPGs can be later, I guess.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)The principal should have had a fucking bazooka....no wait. He should have had field artillery, or maybe even one of them predatory drones. Fuck it. Intercontinental ballistic missile, and anybody who disagrees with me is a socialistic coward.
Need I add...