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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:12 PM Mar 2012

Mitt Romney’s ‘veepstakes’ begin

Phillip Rucker in Appleton, Wisc.
Washington Post, 3/31/12

Mitt Romney’s advisers and top supporters have begun informally discussing potential vice presidential candidates and believe that the sooner he can put away the Republican nomination, the more flexibility he will have in picking his running mate.

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In short, the habitually cautious candidate is less likely to try to make a splash by picking a game-changing candidate and more likely to choose someone safe, whom he sees as competent and ready to be president.

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...early indications are that Romney will not repeat the error of 2008, when John McCain sought a dramatic choice but failed to run a thorough vetting process in picking Sarah Palin.

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Now, as Republicans continue coalescing around Romney — Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (Wis.) endorsed him this week — some are wondering whether his new backers might be appear on the ticket.

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Other rising stars would check certain boxes for Romney. New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez is from a swing state and is Hispanic. South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley could help soothe tensions with Romney across the traditional South. But like Rubio, they are relatively inexperienced.

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If he follows tradition, Romney will seriously consider eight to 10 candidates — a short list that some said could also include Ryan, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, Sen. John Thune (S.D.) and former Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty — and then whittle his list down to four or five who will undergo a rigorous vetting.

full: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/mitt-romneys-veepstakes-begin/2012/03/30/gIQATWo8lS_singlePage.html

In fact, Rubio has said that he doesn't think he'll be the running mate.

Santorum has also expressed interest (this is a TYT video)

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Mitt Romney’s ‘veepstakes’ begin (Original Post) alp227 Mar 2012 OP
Bullshit on Rubio. RandySF Mar 2012 #1
Sounds like he's already got his Press Secretary picked out HotRodTuna Mar 2012 #2
Odds are that it will be an established Governor from a swing state grantcart Mar 2012 #3
What about that nonsense story Lawlbringer Mar 2012 #4
There's a tactical advantage to be gained there jmowreader Mar 2012 #9
I have said this all along Cosmocat Mar 2012 #5
He needs to keep the fundamentalist-evangelical-teabagger-anti-government-anti-intellectual AlinPA Mar 2012 #6
LOL...great descriptive multi-adjectives ! All know is no way in hell he Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #13
P.S. Three of the four lunatics you mention, are from states he will win anyway. And, Sanitarium Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #14
The Penn primary is next month, alp227 Apr 2012 #21
or the biggest surprise: Herman Cain? alp227 Apr 2012 #18
My Bets Are On Paul Ryan... KharmaTrain Mar 2012 #7
Susana Martinez... woman, Hispanic, Governor of a swing state. DCBob Mar 2012 #8
No. jmowreader Mar 2012 #10
I think the GOPers are more worried about their numbers with women and Hispanics. DCBob Apr 2012 #12
That's a good point. But, don't you think it was proven that women don't vote for women Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #15
Yeah, a "male Hispanic" ie Rubio is also a very high possibility. DCBob Apr 2012 #17
They had a montage of clips of Rubio saying No, No, No, No, No -- He wouldn't be VP. He added Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #19
it won't be Rubio graham4anything Apr 2012 #11
but would he risk the backlash of rekindling Bush fatigue? nt Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2012 #16
Chris Cillizza predicts that Romney will pick someone with conservative creds. alp227 Apr 2012 #20

RandySF

(58,835 posts)
1. Bullshit on Rubio.
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:31 PM
Mar 2012

He moved up the publication date on his book and hired people to do opposition research on himself.

 

HotRodTuna

(114 posts)
2. Sounds like he's already got his Press Secretary picked out
Fri Mar 30, 2012, 10:36 PM
Mar 2012

Have to admit that was a pretty nice shot at Santorum on Leno.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
3. Odds are that it will be an established Governor from a swing state
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 12:03 AM
Mar 2012

Anybody who has served as a Senator or a Representative often times has too many votes to account for.

Lawlbringer

(550 posts)
4. What about that nonsense story
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 03:30 AM
Mar 2012

about Ron Paul saying he'd trade in his delegates if Romney picked "Number 1 Son" Rand Paul for the VEEP spot?

Well, it may not be nonsense, but why would Mittens really care if he got Ron's delegates? Doesn't he only have like 50 or something?

Either way, either Paul would be a terrible choice (both because I hate them, that they would only draw in the crazies for support, and that their policies are both ignorant and pretty damn racist.)

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
9. There's a tactical advantage to be gained there
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 10:50 PM
Mar 2012

Picking Rand and taking Paul's handful of delegates would eliminate the possibility the Paulbots would turn the GOP convention into even more of a circus than it's already going to be. That could be valuable in, say, October when people remember just how fucked the GOP convention was.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
5. I have said this all along
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 08:46 AM
Mar 2012

Mittens is a lot like BO.

Same steady course approach to the campaign, and I get the same "no drama' VP type pick.

I agree with the poster who said it is likely a governor from a swing state, but I do think one of the hyped up young guy types, a guy like Rubio, might be the pick, too.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
6. He needs to keep the fundamentalist-evangelical-teabagger-anti-government-anti-intellectual
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:00 AM
Mar 2012

anti-immigrant-anti-gay base involved. Santorum, Newt, Huckabee, Perry or some other nut would fit for their ticket.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. LOL...great descriptive multi-adjectives ! All know is no way in hell he
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 11:17 AM
Apr 2012

will pick a woman. Just read Feb Vanity Fair, and the story about
how he went to visit his former babysitter who was pregnant and
wanted to keep her child. He tried to force his Mormon beliefs
on her and threatened excommunication if she didn't give the baby
up for adoption. The man has NO respect for women

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
14. P.S. Three of the four lunatics you mention, are from states he will win anyway. And, Sanitarium
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 11:20 AM
Apr 2012

lost his own state..

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
7. My Bets Are On Paul Ryan...
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 09:30 AM
Mar 2012

Millard has to win two races here if he wants to win. The first is winning the "soul" of his inept and dysfunctional party. He needs them to show up and vote for him if he stands any chance to beat President Obama. Like Gramps McCain, Mittens is an awful candidate who as Bill Mahrer says "paint watches him dry". McCain tried to double down with what he thought would be a "perky" choice that turned into a disaster...Willard's people are certainly not interested in making that mistake again. They don't want anyone who outshines or outshouts their milqtoast candidate. Thus why there's no say he'd pick Noooot or Rectorum.

His dilemma is to find a "Conservative" who can cover his ass but not "go rogue" on him. He doesn't need someone from a crimson red state...there's no way those states go for the "colored" fella. There's slim pickings in the "frontline" states where McDonnell, Rubio and Portman don't assure those states can or will be won. Thus look for Willard to go with a "safe" hate radio darling...someone who is as bland as he is but has strong bona-fides among the great unhinged. Since Rmoney will be running on his budget I could see him picking Ryan to play point man/hatchet man on the economy while Millard vascilates like a fan.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
8. Susana Martinez... woman, Hispanic, Governor of a swing state.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:02 AM
Mar 2012

The simple-minded GOPers wont be able to resist... they will think she can fix all their problems. She might help but it wont be near enough.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
10. No.
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:01 PM
Mar 2012

She'd hurt them with the base more than she'd help draw Hispanics or women.

This is going to be a replay of 2008, where the GOP picked a young, attractive evangelical to pair up with the guy who traded in his first wife for a beer distributor. (Okay, so they got someone whose first act would have been to put a refrigerator on the porch at the Naval Observatory, but at least they tried.) This time around, they will have to pick a teabagger to run with Etch-a-Sketch.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
12. I think the GOPers are more worried about their numbers with women and Hispanics.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 09:19 AM
Apr 2012

than making the teabaggers happy.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. That's a good point. But, don't you think it was proven that women don't vote for women
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 11:26 AM
Apr 2012

just because they are women when Obama beat Hillary? I certainly wouldn't. And since there aren't any
Republican men (or most women for that matter) who are known for being champions of women's causes, how
do they close the gap?

Even if he picked a Republican woman who was pro choice, for example, that would totally piss off the
wingnuts.

I would bet a lot of money that Romney would NEVER EVER EVER pick a woman anyway.

So, that leaves a Hispanic. A male Hispanic.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. Yeah, a "male Hispanic" ie Rubio is also a very high possibility.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 12:15 PM
Apr 2012

You are right that women dont necessariy vote for women... but the GOPers are often shallow and simple-minded about things like that just assume they would.. given they all wear dresses and high-heels etc.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
19. They had a montage of clips of Rubio saying No, No, No, No, No -- He wouldn't be VP. He added
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 03:56 PM
Apr 2012

"not now anyway" (presumptuous, isn't it)

Course that doesn't mean he couldn't be brow-beaten into it, I suppose.

If he does say no, it tells me he's smarter that the rest....it doesn't take
a rocket scientist to see Obama will most likely win. Why jump on a losing bandwagon?

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
11. it won't be Rubio
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 08:44 AM
Apr 2012

last person Mitt will take if he doesn't want another vapid Sarah would be Rubio and Rubio cannot guarantee Florida.

after all, Rudio offers nothing in the way of votes, and the only reason McCain took Sarah was thinking she and Hillary both were female.

I know, Mitt should take John Edwards or Joe Lieberman. Who more exemplifies the corrupt republicans than John Edwards or Lieberman does.

there is always Jeb.

alp227

(32,025 posts)
20. Chris Cillizza predicts that Romney will pick someone with conservative creds.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 04:00 PM
Apr 2012
Who will Romney's vice presidential pick be? A conservative.

...Romney’s vice presidential pick will be determined primarily by geography, camaraderie and readiness for the top job, not ideology. And it might. But making that sort of non-ideological choice would represent a major break with how recent Republican nominees have made up their minds about their second-in-command.


Why do Republicans feel the need to find ideological equilibrium when making their vice presidential pick? “Historically, and presently, the central fault line inside the GOP has been between the moderate/establishment wing and the movement conservative wing,” explains GOP consultant Jon Lerner. “The choice of running mate has very frequently been used to unite the two wings.”
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