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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:19 PM Feb 2013

Poll: Hillary More Popular Than Obama, Biden, GOP 2016 Hopefuls



TOM KLUDT 9:26 AM EST, FRIDAY FEBRUARY 8, 2013

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton may well be the most popular public official in the country, according to the latest findings from Quinnipiac University released Friday.

With 61 percent of registered voters nationwide saying they have a positive opinion of her and only 34 percent saying they have a negative impression, Clinton's favorability rating trumps the top figures in the administration she just left behind: President Barack Obama (51-46 percent), Vice President Joe Biden (46-41 percent) and her successor at the State Department John Kerry (43-33).

Her popularity also easily eclipses the GOP leader on Capitol Hill, House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH), whose favorability rating of 20 percent is more than doubled by the 42 percent of voters who view him unfavorably.

Clinton is also more personally popular than potential 2016 Republican rivals like former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R) and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), both of whom are still largely unknown nationally. But her favorability rating tops that of Rep. Paul (R-WI). The 2012 Republican vice presidential nominee is viewed favorably by 34 percent of the country and unfavorably by 36 percent, according to the poll.

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http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/poll-hillary-more-popular-than-obama-biden-gop

Link to Quinnipiac Poll:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-centers/polling-institute/national/release-detail/?ReleaseID=1849
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Poll: Hillary More Popular Than Obama, Biden, GOP 2016 Hopefuls (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2013 OP
Apple and oranges... jenmito Feb 2013 #1
Right Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2013 #2
Exactly... jenmito Feb 2013 #9
follow the money....who's paying for the poll? nt antigop Feb 2013 #13
To feed their families...AND division within the Democratic Party. That's why they keep harping on Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2013 #14
Some of them have clearly not let go of the 2008 Democratic primary Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2013 #21
Sadly that's still very apparent even here on DU. Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2013 #24
She was BEING a politician when she made the deals for Keystone, but, held off signing them blm Feb 2013 #3
Get your facts straight. Beacool Feb 2013 #4
The decision relies on State Dept and Clinton was always FOR it. Those deals were made blm Feb 2013 #10
Both Clintons are on board with the Keystone Pipeline. AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #6
The final approval is Obama's. Beacool Feb 2013 #7
true AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #8
excerpt: blm Feb 2013 #11
She and Bill wanted Keystone deal signed 4 years ago, and nothing changed but it's 4 years later. blm Feb 2013 #12
Amazing, isn't it? AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #15
Susan Rice and her husband have millions of dollars invested in oil companies. Beacool Feb 2013 #17
I know. AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #18
Of the two, I agree that Kerry was the better choice. Beacool Feb 2013 #19
Again, I'll repeat it slowly. Beacool Feb 2013 #16
Could you run that by me again using smaller, single syllable words? great white snark Feb 2013 #22
I think that Kerry will do whatever Obama wants him to do. Beacool Feb 2013 #23
Her numbers may drop if she runs, but . . . TroyD Feb 2013 #28
Great!!! Beacool Feb 2013 #5
Obama had high ratings when he wasn't running for national office either. Nedsdag Feb 2013 #20
Long, long way away... but I've been told by the one right wing friend that I can stand... ghurley Feb 2013 #25
That's nice. Still too early. aquart Feb 2013 #26
I'm sorry for raining on the parade but aaaaaa5a Feb 2013 #27

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
2. Right
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:35 PM
Feb 2013

I love HRC and would support her in a heartbeat if she were to run for office in 2016 but polls like these are meaningless IMHO. But I guess pollsters gotta feed their families.............

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
9. Exactly...
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:12 PM
Feb 2013

I guess pollsters gotta poll, and reporters gotta report-even if it's meaningless, time-filling "stuff."

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
14. To feed their families...AND division within the Democratic Party. That's why they keep harping on
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:02 PM
Feb 2013

Obama-Biden on one side vs. Hillary's popularity on the other.

They know damn well that political figures who are out of office tend to be more popular than elected officials still serving in office.

They're so transparent.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)
21. Some of them have clearly not let go of the 2008 Democratic primary
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:12 AM
Feb 2013

and seem intent on keeping Rush's "Operation Chaos" alive, probably through the next election, especially if it looks like Hillary and Biden decide to throw in for the race.

blm

(113,065 posts)
3. She was BEING a politician when she made the deals for Keystone, but, held off signing them
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:44 PM
Feb 2013

over the last 4 years so she could protect her popularity with Dem voters. Deals made long ago and awaiting only a signature so the next Sec of State will get the headlines and photos and backlash.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
4. Get your facts straight.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:47 PM
Feb 2013

Obama decided to put a hold on a final decision because of the backlash from environmental groups and others. It is still up in the air whether he will approve it.

blm

(113,065 posts)
10. The decision relies on State Dept and Clinton was always FOR it. Those deals were made
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:27 PM
Feb 2013

long ago, and so were the recommendations to the WH.

Gee - what happened to the 'power' of the most 'powerful' and 'pro-active' Sec of State of all time? Guess she just never got around to making deals on Keystone that she was prepared to sign 4 years ago, eh?

Some of us don't allow ourselves to get fooled.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
8. true
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:09 PM
Feb 2013

It just doesn't help when those surrounding this issue are financially invested in it. That kind of conflict of interest is noteworthy.

blm

(113,065 posts)
11. excerpt:
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:32 PM
Feb 2013

>>>>
But the rumor is that Clinton’s State Department is nonetheless about to recommend approval of the Keystone XL Pipeline, which the top climate scientists in the nation have unanimously called a terrible idea. As far as I know, though, Clinton’s subordinates haven’t reached out to ask them why. For more than a year now, it’s been one of Washington’s worst-kept secrets that Clinton wants the pipeline approved. And why not? Its builder, TransCanada, hired her old deputy campaign manager as its chief lobbyist and gave lobbying contracts to several of her big bundlers. Leaked emails show embassy officials rooting on the project; it’s classic D.C. insiderism. (And, weirdly, her rumored successor is just as involved—Susan Rice has millions in stock in TransCanada and other Canadian energy companies.)

And in one sense it doesn’t make much difference. Everyone in the capital’s also known that the Keystone decision, in the end, will come down to President Obama, who will weigh State’s findings and then rule whether the pipeline is in the national interest. When that happens, we’ll find out if he’s a more modern politician than Hillary, or if he’s still fighting yesterday’s wars too.
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blm

(113,065 posts)
12. She and Bill wanted Keystone deal signed 4 years ago, and nothing changed but it's 4 years later.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:36 PM
Feb 2013

Hillary won't have to deal with the headlines or the accompanying photos of her signing off on the deals she made. The Clintons will use their enormous influence to get the deals already made signed and let the next officeholder take the blame. Everyone knows Kerry has too much chivalry to point the blame for the deals where blame belongs..... at Hillary.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
15. Amazing, isn't it?
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:04 PM
Feb 2013

And Susan Rice took the brunt of the Benghazi brouhaha.

Still, I'm hoping Kerry can turn this thing around before it's a done deal.

Confirmation Of Climate Hawk Kerry As Secretary Of State May Doom Dirty Keystone XL Pipeline

The Senate confirmed John Kerry as a Secretary of State by a vote of 94 to 3. I believe this is a turning point in the fight to stop the Keystone XL pipeline. Once again, I do not think that a man who had dedicated his Senate career to fighting catastrophic climate change would start his term as Secretary approving the expansion of one of the dirtiest sources of fossil fuels in the world.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/01/29/1513521/confirmation-of-climate-hawk-kerry-as-secretary-of-state-death-blow-dirty-keystone-xl-pipeline/

Kerry at his SOS confirmation: "The solution to climate change is energy policy. And, the opportunities of energy policy so vastly outweigh the downsides that you’re expressing concerns about … You want to do business and do it well in America, you have to get into the energy race … I would respectfully say to you that climate change is not something to be feared in response to—the steps to respond to—it’s to be feared if we don’t … I will be a passionate advocate on this not based on ideology but based on facts and science, and I hope to sit with all of you and convince you that this $6 trillion market is worth millions of American jobs and we better go after it."
 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
18. I know.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:14 PM
Feb 2013

When I heard that, I was quite taken aback. Yikes. But then I realized the job was always John Kerry's and I was glad. I think he was born for the job.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
16. Again, I'll repeat it slowly.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 08:44 PM
Feb 2013

Obama is the one who has the final decision. Obama was the one who decided to put the deal on hold (election year, remember?). He is the one who will give the final approval.

great white snark

(2,646 posts)
22. Could you run that by me again using smaller, single syllable words?
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 11:45 AM
Feb 2013

I kid I kid. Whatever the case Hillary did an outstanding job and I do hope SOS Kerry will finally be the end of the environmentally cruel pipeline.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
23. I think that Kerry will do whatever Obama wants him to do.
Sat Feb 9, 2013, 01:09 PM
Feb 2013

He can give him advice, but Obama will be the one to decide whether to go with the deal or not. It's the president's decision to make.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
28. Her numbers may drop if she runs, but . . .
Mon Feb 11, 2013, 12:46 PM
Feb 2013

She would still have high numbers. Most likely higher than a lot of other Democrats could get.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
5. Great!!!
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 03:50 PM
Feb 2013

Poll after poll over a long period of time have had the results. Of course her poll numbers would go down somewhat if she does choose to run in 2016. We'll just have to wait and see.




Nedsdag

(2,437 posts)
20. Obama had high ratings when he wasn't running for national office either.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:13 PM
Feb 2013

As soon as she announces, her ratings will drop.

ghurley

(205 posts)
25. Long, long way away... but I've been told by the one right wing friend that I can stand...
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:22 PM
Feb 2013

that he doesn't believe there is anyone in the Republican party now that can beat her. His quote was that "she's gotta have 9 to 5 odds in Vegas right now."

Quick google search shows english bookie company taking 6 to 1 on hrc.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
26. That's nice. Still too early.
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:27 PM
Feb 2013

I am SO in favor of a mean-assed law that limits campaigns to six months and docks the offender a million for every early assault on our consciousness or mention in the press.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
27. I'm sorry for raining on the parade but
Sun Feb 10, 2013, 10:43 PM
Feb 2013

given that she has basically been out of politics for over 4 years while Obama has waged war after war over health care, the budget, the auto bailout and now guns, etc. etc...... the fact that she only leads the President 51-46 is shockingly bad. The same is true for Biden (46-41).

I am going to be doing everything I can to help Hillary get elected in 2016. But I hope these numbers can sober up some people here, and more importantly within her campaign. 2016 is going to be a major dog fight. Winning the White-house for 3 consecutive times won't be easy. Its rarely been done. And this time around, the GOP heavy weights will be out, unlike in 2012, when most of the best of the GOP candidates stayed away opting for 2016 instead.


Think about it. Hillary is at her absolute apex in the history of her political career, and she only leads our battle worn President by 5? I hope that instead of dancing in the streets over a number practically within the margin of error, it inspires people to get to work!


In 2006 and 2007 Hillary was a huge favorite for 2008 just as she is now. How did that turn out? Technically right now Biden is already closer to Hillary than any candidate was at this point in the 2008 race. Trust me, 2016 is going to be no cakewalk. And these numbers prove it.

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