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red dog 1

(27,845 posts)
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:43 PM Feb 2013

Is Ashley Judd the only Democrat who can defeat Mitch McConnell?

I very much want to see the Turtle, Mitch McConnell, defeated in 2014; but is Ashley Judd the only one who could prevail against the Senate Minority Leader?

"Last week, McConnell's campaign released a new web ad which links potential Democratic candidates to President Obama, and asks who will be Obama's Kentucky candidate in 2014.
The ad targets Judd, who is seen enthusiastically nominating Obama as a representative of Tennessee at the Democratic National Convention.
Obama lost all but four counties in Kentucky in 2012 and did not campaign in the state."
http://www.nationaljournal.com/daily/the-latest-signs-ashley-judd-is-preparing-run-against-mitch-mcconnell-20130220/

The current Lieutenant Governor of Kentucky is Democrat Jerry Abramson.
Abramson previously served as the longest serving Mayor of Louisville, Kentucky.
In 1991, Abramson had a Bluegrass Poll rating of 91 percent, an amazingly high number for any Democrat in this very red state
Perhaps he could defeat McConnell in 2014.

Another very popular Kentuckian is the Democratic Secretary of State,
Alison Lundergan Grimes.
On Ashley Judd running against McConnell in 2014, "Roll Call" points out:
"A stronger candidate, insiders said, would be Kentucky Secretary of State
Alison Lundergan Grimes. But she, along with other statewide elected officials, might decide to pursue their political ambitions elsewhere."

http://atr.rollcall.com/inside-the-2014-senate-races/

What if, instead of moving to Kentucky, Ashley Judd stayed in Tennessee and ran against the popular Lamar Alexander, who's seat is considered "safe"?
There does not appear to be any Tennessean Democrat who could prevail against Lamar Alexander, at least at the present time.
Why doesn't Ashley Judd stay in Tennessee, where she is extremely popular,and run against Lamar Alexander in 2014?
Again, according to "Roll Call"...."Senator Lamar Alexander is a well-liked Senator and former Governor who is a masterful campaigner who knows the Volunteer State politics well ..and who is a 'boffo' fund raiser as well, which makes any challenge to him a steep uphill climb."

In my opinion, Ashley Judd probably could match Lamar Alexander's ability to raise funds, thus making it a Senate race that she could win.



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Is Ashley Judd the only Democrat who can defeat Mitch McConnell? (Original Post) red dog 1 Feb 2013 OP
Abramson sounds like he'd be a great candidate. CurtEastPoint Feb 2013 #1
I agree..I think he would make an excellent candidate. red dog 1 Feb 2013 #4
Abramson's popular in Louisville, not so much outside in the rural areas. Bake Feb 2013 #11
I could just imagine the ads if that happened. tarheelsunc Feb 2013 #2
mcturtle's internals show him up 4 points against judd.. frylock Feb 2013 #16
There are plenty of democratic politicians in KY that can run. hrmjustin Feb 2013 #3
I agree....There are Kentuckians who could defeat the Turtle, red dog 1 Feb 2013 #7
I think roll call is wrong on Alison grimes Notafraidtoo Feb 2013 #5
I agree... CherokeeDem Feb 2013 #8
Some issues with Kentucky Democrats.... CherokeeDem Feb 2013 #6
Whichever Democrat runs against McConnell will need lots of help from the DSCC. red dog 1 Feb 2013 #9
I hope so... CherokeeDem Feb 2013 #10
An Ashley Judd vs Mitch McConnell race gets a lot of national attention. NPolitics1979 Feb 2013 #12
An Ashley Judd vs Lamar Alexander race also gets a lot of national attention. red dog 1 Feb 2013 #14
Any chance Lamar gets Teabagged in 2014. NPolitics1979 Feb 2013 #17
Anything is possible. red dog 1 Feb 2013 #18
I hope Ashley Judd runs A Little Weird Feb 2013 #13
I think Grimes is the best choice too, red dog 1 Feb 2013 #15
Grimes,Luallen,Beshear,Conway,and the other KY Statewide Democratic Elected Officials NPolitics1979 Feb 2013 #20
I'm not convinced she is... brooklynite Feb 2013 #19

red dog 1

(27,845 posts)
4. I agree..I think he would make an excellent candidate.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:03 PM
Feb 2013

He's extremely popular, much younger than that old fart McConnell, and, most importantly, not a Washington D.C. "insider".

I think he'd do quite well against the Turtle.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
11. Abramson's popular in Louisville, not so much outside in the rural areas.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:40 PM
Feb 2013

Allison Lundergan Grimes might be our best candidate to knock off McConnell.

Bake

tarheelsunc

(2,117 posts)
2. I could just imagine the ads if that happened.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:53 PM
Feb 2013

"ASHLEY JUDD is a regular at Kentucky basketball games. Is that who we want representing TENNESSEE in the Senate?"

And the sad thing is, that might actually count for a lot of votes in SEC country.

If she has a reasonable chance of beating Mitch McFilibuster, then we need her there in Kentucky. He needs to go, badly. But I'm not so sure she would have a good chance as the right would portray her as an out of touch elite who's not in touch with the people's needs. As Ayn Rand Paul said, she's too attractive and too articulate.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
3. There are plenty of democratic politicians in KY that can run.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 04:54 PM
Feb 2013

Former congressman Chandler can run, and he would have a great shot. The Former LT. Governor who ran in 2004 against Bunning and almost beat him can run. AG who ran against Paul can run. They have people who can do it, and I think it is likely that she won't be the nominee. Than again...

red dog 1

(27,845 posts)
7. I agree....There are Kentuckians who could defeat the Turtle,
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:11 PM
Feb 2013

including former Louisville Mayor Dave Armstrong, who was very popular, and who absolutely hates McConnell.

Notafraidtoo

(402 posts)
5. I think roll call is wrong on Alison grimes
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:07 PM
Feb 2013

I Live in Kentucky and until i saw her speak the other day i would have agreed with Jerry having a better chance, But now if she could only win the primary with out being too beaten up by the Dino's here calling her too liberal for Kentucky I think she would destroy turtle man. The biggest objection by the Dino's here is her objection to mountain top removal, but i agree with Yarmuth on this one she explains her position very well.

Some Conservatives here are going on the public airwaves saying her love of Kentucky basketball wont save her thats too superficial to give her a advantage, but thats exactly why Conservatives will vote for her here,Kentucky basketball is life for these people and they love Judd's support, I could see her pulling 10-20% of the righties for this reason. these same people would not vote for Jerry or Alison,Grimes is not a house hold name here.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
8. I agree...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:16 PM
Feb 2013

but Jerry might not run...seems he wants to be governor.

I like Grimes but still not certain she could pull enough support from the DSCC to have the money to combat McConnell.

As for the former Lt Gov Mongiardo...he had a very poor showing against Jack Conway in the primary...doesn't debate well...for me. at least, not an option.

I forgot to mention that if the current governor Steve Breshear decided to run, even though he has said he done with political office after his term is up, I think Breshear could win. He's been an excellent governor and has proven he can win statewide. I wish he would reconsider.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
6. Some issues with Kentucky Democrats....
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:10 PM
Feb 2013

Lieutenant Governor Jerry Abramson has already said he prefers an 'administrative' position over a 'legislative' position, signaling his interest in running for governor, not the Senate. The AG, Jack Conway was too green when he ran against Rand Paul (I never thought Paul would win), he's been a great AG but might be too early for him to run against McConnell...I'm wondering if he might run for Lt. Gov with Abramson (even though they are both from Louisville).

Kentucky Secretary of State Alison Lundergan Grimes might be an okay candidate...but not certain she could pull in the national money to combat McConnell.

All I can say is McConnell and Paul are both worried about Ashley Judd...both taking pot shots at her and McConnell running ads against her and she hasn't even established a residency in Kentucky. No matter what happens, it's nice to see these two GOP jackasses worried.

Promise we'll do all we can to get McConnell and Paul out but Kentucky is a conservative state...hard to overcome that mindset.

red dog 1

(27,845 posts)
9. Whichever Democrat runs against McConnell will need lots of help from the DSCC.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:19 PM
Feb 2013

McConnell will have almost unlimited funds for the attack ads he will continue to run, and whoever emerges as the Dem to run against him, the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee must help out in a big way.

CherokeeDem

(3,709 posts)
10. I hope so...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 05:22 PM
Feb 2013

if they do, regardless of the candidate, then that will be a great signal that internal polls are telling the Dems they can win. I'll be there to help do what I can!

red dog 1

(27,845 posts)
14. An Ashley Judd vs Lamar Alexander race also gets a lot of national attention.
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 09:55 PM
Feb 2013

She is a famous, well-liked actress who could really give Lamar Alexander a hard time, particularly because she could match him in fund-raising.

If Judd moves to Kentucky and runs against McConnell, she will first have to win the Democratic primary, which might be "down & dirty," since Kentucky has several Dems in statewide office who may decide to run against her in the primary.

On the other hand, in Tennessee, former governor Phil Bredesen "is the only Democrat, besides judges and presidential candidates, to win a statewide election since 1990."
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130125/NEWS/301250125/Holiday-party-spat-riles-up-TN-Democrats/

My feeling is that the Turtle is definitely beatable, and he could be defeated by whoever emerges from the Democratic primary...particularly if the DSCC forks over the cash necessary to counter his attack ads.

McConnell may even face a Tea Party challenge in a Republican primary, which could get ugly.

Meanwhile, back in Tennessee where she lives, Judd still hasn't made up her mind.
"Judd has not announced her candidacy, nor started an exploratory committee,
nor raised a dime of campaign money. She's still thinking it over, with a promise to tell everybody on some day before the Kentucky Derby on May 4."
http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130223/COLUMNISTS20/302230039/James-R-Carroll-Ashley-Judd/

A Little Weird

(1,754 posts)
13. I hope Ashley Judd runs
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 08:00 PM
Feb 2013

Her name recognition alone would be worth a lot but also her ability to fund-raise nationally.

If she doesn't, I think Grimes is the best choice. For one thing, it's high time Kentucky had a female senator!! But also, I like her and think she could do it if she could get the fundraising support.

My next choice would be for Adam Edelen, the state auditor. Then Jack Conway, the AG. Another good candidate would be Crit Luallen, but I don't think it will happen.

Folks upthread have mentioned Abramson, Beshear, Mongiardo, and Chandler as candidates but I hope they can be avoided. I would hold my nose and vote if any of them became the nominee, but I don't like them and don't think they have a very good chance of winning.

Just my 2 cents.

red dog 1

(27,845 posts)
15. I think Grimes is the best choice too,
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:05 PM
Feb 2013

if Ashley Judd decides not to run against McConnell.

However, she will need help...lots of help...from the coffers of the DSCC.

NPolitics1979

(613 posts)
20. Grimes,Luallen,Beshear,Conway,and the other KY Statewide Democratic Elected Officials
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:59 PM
Feb 2013

win statewide elections at the state level but lose Federal US Senate elections because of issues such as Obamacare which is unpopular in KY

brooklynite

(94,713 posts)
19. I'm not convinced she is...
Sun Feb 24, 2013, 10:43 PM
Feb 2013

I'll wait till her people call me (which they will) and give me a convincing argument as to how a "Hollywood Liberal" (how she'll be framed) can compete in Kentucky.

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