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DonViejo

(60,536 posts) Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:20 AM Mar 2013

Ryan’s New Budget Repeals ‘Obamacare’

PEMA LEVY 9:43 AM EDT, SUNDAY MARCH 10, 2013

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) said Sunday that the budget he will introduce next week repeals health care reform because that under 'Obamacare,' "we think it's going to look very ugly over the next couple of years."

Appearing on "Fox News Sunday," Ryan explained that his budget is based on the assumption of repealing 'Obamacare' and replacing it with a new system. His budget also reforms Medicare for those currently under 55 years of age.

"Are you saying, as part of your budget you assume the repeal of ObamaCare?," host Chris Wallace asked.

"Yes," said Ryan.

"Well, that's not going to happen," Wallace said.

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Ryan Defends Medicare Plan: ‘It’s Not A Voucher’

PEMA LEVY 9:53 AM EDT, SUNDAY MARCH 10, 2013
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) on Sunday defended his plan to reform Medicare for those under 55 years old, a plan that he has pushed in his budgets for years and which he will continue backing in the budget plan he will release next week.

"It's not a voucher, it's premium support, which is very different," Ryan said on "Fox News Sunday."

Ryan explained that under his plan, senior choose from a list of guaranteed coverage options, including traditional Medicare, and that Medicare would subsidize that plan. The subsidies would cover the entire cost for the poor and less of the cost for wealthy seniors.

Ryan argued that despite being attacked during the campaign for wanting "voucher care,"the issue didn't hurt the Romney-Ryan ticket in 2012. "We won the senior vote," Ryan said.

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Ryan’s New Budget Repeals ‘Obamacare’ (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2013 OP

Oh. I thought he said the SENILE vote. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #1

Luckily, as a senior, I was not SENILE enough to vote for Romney. djean111 Mar 2013 #4

I'm 68. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #5

Don't you get tired of being put in the "seniors voted for Romney" box? djean111 Mar 2013 #8

I hang out with a lot of leftist old farts. Jackpine Radical Mar 2013 #9

Bwah! Good one! Yup! djean111 Mar 2013 #12

Until The Koch Brothers Stop Funding This Madness - It Will Never End cantbeserious Mar 2013 #2

Replacing it with that GOP favorite, "ER and Bankruptcy Care" Freddie Mar 2013 #3

LOL at Wallace : "Well, that's not going to happen," Wallace said." n/t OKNancy Mar 2013 #6

They've learned nothing since the last election Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2013 #7

Robme may have won the senior vote Mz Pip Mar 2013 #10

The Ayn Rand budget Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #11

"Well, that's not going to happen," Wallace said. Cha Mar 2013 #13

Ryan should go back to hawking his fitness photos on line kairos12 Mar 2013 #14

What is this, the 38th or 39th time they tried to repeal Obamacare? jmowreader Mar 2013 #15

a ploy daybranch Mar 2013 #16

fucking asshole Skittles Mar 2013 #17

Oh Eddie Munster Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2013 #18

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

1. Oh. I thought he said the SENILE vote.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:23 AM

Mar 2013

"We won the senior vote," Ryan said.

djean111

(14,255 posts)

4. Luckily, as a senior, I was not SENILE enough to vote for Romney.

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Reply #1)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:37 AM

Mar 2013

So just maybe neither "side" should count on me, based on my age or gender or location.......
I wonder if/when the seemingly inevitable chained CPI "fix" (fix, my ass) will be hailed as brilliantly bipartisan because the seniors "always vote GOP anyway".

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

5. I'm 68.

Reply to djean111 (Reply #4)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 11:25 AM

Mar 2013

Getting further left every year.

djean111

(14,255 posts)

8. Don't you get tired of being put in the "seniors voted for Romney" box?

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Reply #5)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:07 PM

Mar 2013

I am starting to wonder if there is much individual thinking, sometimes!
Ot maybe I just hang out on internet boards too much.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)

9. I hang out with a lot of leftist old farts.

Reply to djean111 (Reply #8)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:22 PM

Mar 2013

You know--the kind who remember when "Red state" referred to Cuba.

djean111

(14,255 posts)

12. Bwah! Good one! Yup!

Reply to Jackpine Radical (Reply #9)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:29 PM

Mar 2013

Last edited Sun Mar 10, 2013, 05:31 PM - Edit history (1)

All my friends my age (little tiny bit less than you) are liberal - likely that is self-selecting because I wouldn't hang out with conservatives.
But a scary thing is to look at the size of the Meetup.com groups that are actually tea party groups, in this area (Florida). Look like mostly 20's - 40's; group names like proud patriots, whatever. Some groups have 300+ members. Looks like the liberals are just having meetups about books and yoga - the tea party is ORGANIZED.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)

2. Until The Koch Brothers Stop Funding This Madness - It Will Never End

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:23 AM

Mar 2013

eom

Freddie

(9,265 posts)

3. Replacing it with that GOP favorite, "ER and Bankruptcy Care"

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:31 AM

Mar 2013

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)

6. LOL at Wallace : "Well, that's not going to happen," Wallace said." n/t

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 11:46 AM

Mar 2013

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)

7. They've learned nothing since the last election

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 12:04 PM

Mar 2013

Got to keep teaching them apparently.

BTW did anybody ever seriously think that they would change?

Mz Pip

(27,445 posts)

10. Robme may have won the senior vote

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:19 PM

Mar 2013

But IIRC they weren't going to touch Medicare for current seniors so Ryan's claim of equating the senior vote to an approval of his plan to change Medicare is disingenuous.

Seniors may have voted for RR but not because of Ryan's plan.

Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)

11. The Ayn Rand budget

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 01:24 PM

Mar 2013

Cha

(297,240 posts)

13. "Well, that's not going to happen," Wallace said.

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 04:20 PM

Mar 2013

thanks DonViejo

kairos12

(12,861 posts)

14. Ryan should go back to hawking his fitness photos on line

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 06:37 PM

Mar 2013

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)

15. What is this, the 38th or 39th time they tried to repeal Obamacare?

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 07:15 PM

Mar 2013

News flash for Republicans: Obamacare will not be repealed so long as the man you named it for is still in the White House. So you can quit fucking around and do something besides trying to repeal it.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)

16. a ploy

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Sun Mar 10, 2013, 10:22 PM

Mar 2013

Ryan is hoping that the repubs can convince the populace that Obamacare is what is going to hurt the economy in the near term and obscure the republican driven sequester from the public view. Let us not get complacent and assume our countrymen can make appropriate connections. Lets keep them informed .

Skittles

(153,160 posts)

17. fucking asshole

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:23 AM

Mar 2013

he won the senior vote? because they won't be affected by his asinine voucher ripoff - he assured them it's for the rest of us

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,986 posts)

18. Oh Eddie Munster

Reply to DonViejo (Original post)

Mon Mar 11, 2013, 01:28 AM

Mar 2013

Taking your stupid pills again?

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