2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSooner or later, Mitt's going to choose a running mate. But who? Speculation, anyone?
I'll just pull my two bits of speculation out of my ass.
He's going to be "religiously correct" in that he'll be fundamentalist Christian, or at least hard-right Catholic.
He's going to be very far right, probably crazier than a shithouse rat - he has to try to make the teabaggers more enthusiastic.
He won't be super-infamous, so that rules out Dick Cheney or Sarah Palin.
My guesses: Marco Rubio or Chris Christie. Probably Rubio - he's the "safe" candidate that appeals to the teabaggers, won't piss off the religious nuts, and might have appeal to Latino voters. I don't think the GOP's going to make the mistake of trying to shoot the moon with their running mate this year like McCain did when he picked Palin.
RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)I've been saying for a year it's going to be Romney/Rubio. I still think that.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)RDANGELO
(3,435 posts)A conservative woman, she is much more articulate than Palin. Her breadth of knowledge, although it is all right wing talking points, is good.
Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)It'll be a Cheney clone. The GOP has done their job in forcing Mittens down Rs throats. They knew he'd be more "attractive" to the Indies and Mod Dems and give them the best chance of defeating our President. Now that they've got their puppet, they'll find a suitable VP to ru(i)n the country while Mitt spends his time skiing.
OBAMA/BIDEN 2012!!!
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)kelly1mm
(4,735 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,445 posts)He's only been in, what, a year so far? Obama had been in the Senate for at least 2+ when he announced to run for POTUS.
kelly1mm
(4,735 posts)much national experience as Rubio now has. My bad! I thought he was elected to the Senate in 2006.
livetohike
(22,165 posts)I went to wiki and saw he finished law school in 1996 and went into the state house in 2000. No mention of those "lost" four years.
kelly1mm
(4,735 posts)EC
(12,287 posts)she's not running again for Senate and she has higher aspirations i.e. ran for Governor last time around against Perry. She's also moved her stances toward the middle...i.e. standing up for Planned Parenthood.
Alexander
(15,318 posts)He's having a hard enough time getting the right-wing to like him as it is.
EC
(12,287 posts)he's waiting to see if Walker will be free...
on edit: or maybe he'll pick Walker to save him from recall, by giving him a reason to resign before he gets recalled and thus saving Walker for future years from the embarrassment and unelectability that comes with being recalled. The right is still investing heavily in Walker, if he gets recalled he's done future wise and that money would have been wasted...they don't waste money when it comes to advancing their cause.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,445 posts)seems to center around Rob Portman.
loggerboots
(11 posts)It's about electorals,could very well be,no Ohio no Florida,no President Obama,2012
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,445 posts)An Ohio and/or Florida victory would pretty much put a lock on re-election but President Obama could still pull it out, albeit by a closer margin, even if he loses both. He has many more "paths to victory" than R.Money does, at least at the moment.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)doc03
(35,386 posts)FSogol
(45,532 posts)jmowreader
(50,566 posts)Reason: he's relatively unknown to the electorate, but "the right people" (read: the same people who saddled McCain with Mooselini) know exactly who he is. He gets the same effect as picking Scott Walker or Chris Christie, but Walker is on the verge of getting fired and Christie outweighs William Howard Taft.
loggerboots
(11 posts)Good Choice.........It's all about electorals........Portman and Pawlenty,would be a good move in midwest,since Wisconsin has somewhat fallin out of favor with Obama (9pt lead- Tossup in three weeks)
ClassWarrior
(26,316 posts)Or Seamus.
NGU.
longship
(40,416 posts)Some one like Bachmann, but it won't be Bachmann.
MatthewStLouis
(904 posts)If he does, maybe he'll pick Jan Brewer. Hee hee.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)tnvoter
(257 posts)or both: Niki Haley
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)of the picture either-the crazier the better for their base.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Jon Karl takes a look at the possible contenders to be Mitt Romney's vice presidential running mate.
Top Tier: Rob Portman, Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush
Second Tier: Chris Christie, Mitch Daniels, Bob McDonnell, Paul Ryan
Women: Kelly Ayotte, Mary Fallin, Nikki Haley, Susana Martinez
Others: John Thune, Jim DeMint, Tim Pawlenty
MatthewStLouis
(904 posts)Daniel537
(1,560 posts)Jeb seems to be saving himself for 2016. Scarborough was probably right when he said the establishment doesn't really think Romney can win, hence why so many big names stayed out this year. I still think it'll be Rubio or Brian Sandoval of Nevada.
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)(Gov Nikki) Haley indictment imminent?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125126600
Gov. Nikki Haley's Campaign To Repay South Carolina Thousands For Security On Fundraising Trips
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/17/gov-nikki-haleys-campaign_n_1432161.html
Republicans Accuse Nikki Haley (R-SC) Of Lying
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125129856
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)LOL!
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Alexander
(15,318 posts)Both of them are arch-conservatives from swing states who bring foreign policy credentials to the table.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,445 posts)Having served as Bush's OMB (after Daniels), I'm wondering how that might help Romney?
Mopar151
(10,002 posts)totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)comes to mind. He's conservative but not a nut case, and he might help Romney with Hispanic votes in the West. He is popular in his home state and he used to be a federal judge.
Yes, he's only been a governor for two years but in history many VP choices have had no more experience than that.
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)As a Mo', Romney's already an honorary Utahn and for all I know Romney's ancestors were living in Mexico more recently than this other dude.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)Thankfully Martin O'Malley has kicked his ass twice! It would be nice to see Bobby Haircut get his ass kicked a third time.
Brother Buzz
(36,476 posts)I believe him bombastic soundbites would complement Mitt's, like matching bookends.
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)hardest to beat. Black, woman ,foreign affairs, ready to take over if necessary.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,445 posts)Last edited Sat May 19, 2012, 09:17 AM - Edit history (1)
when it comes to terrorists. Or her overabundance of it when it comes to invading countries like Iraq.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)graham4anything
(11,464 posts)in loooking at it through the eyes of the enemy republicans, where #2 last time is the nominee next time, makes sense, knowing Romney ain't gonna win, for Jeb to open his big mouth now and say he would entertain the VP
thereby setting himself up with the nomination next time (as Romney will be blamed for the loss, not the vp choice).
last person Jeb would want is Rubio. Rubio fits in Jebs mind some other way, probably to help steal Florida like in 2000 when Jeb guaranteed W would find the votes
Then I look for Hillary v. Jeb in 2016, with Hillary winning.
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)Bringing the Paultards into the fold.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)Rand might just be the greatest threat to American Democracy there ever has been.
God help all of us if he comes anywhere near the Veep or Pres.
He reminds me of Jorg Haider from Austria.(not only reminds, the two could have been clones).
Rand and Ron would rather have anarchy and do nothing IMHO.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)I had reconsidered this. I'd heard that Romney was all being the anti-McCain. The veep choice would be boring, then - reassuring the base, but not walking-around-nutso. Someone like Rob Portman.
But the continued Paultard shenanigans in the race for delegates makes me think Daddy's going to force Rand on Romney at the convention. So that's where I am. If it's fully Mitt's choice, it won't be Rand Paul. But it might not be up to him.
Ptah
(33,044 posts)Please find a different insult.
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Note well that in 2008 McCain didn't even TRY to run on the * legacy.
Romney's not going to want to drive down the road with THAT shit on the side of his campaign bus.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Zorro
(15,749 posts)to shore up his shaky base in that key region.
Special Prosciuto
(731 posts)morningfog
(18,115 posts)I am not sure they would try that again. They will want to resort to the two white men ticket. Or, try something else, like a Latino.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Unfortunately.
blue_onyx
(4,211 posts)I think Romney will go with someone safe. Pawlenty has the fewest negatives of the potential VP candidates.
If he decides to go for a wildcard type pick, I think it would be Christie.
morningfog
(18,115 posts)and will need to consider how the veep would help him win.
Ultimately, the only question to ask when picking a veep is who can help them win. A look at his weaknesses tells where he will be looking for help.
Too many people focus on regions or states. VP's influence in that regard is overstated. A lot of people also talk about diversity on a ticket. But, that won't really help a republican win votes, at least not against Obama.
Mitt needs help in his image and relatibilty. He is seen as a callous robot. An out of touch rich bubble boy. He needs a populist. As those don't really exist in the gop, he needs a faux-populist.
He needs someone with charisma, but not so much that his ego is threatened. Christie would work, but is much bigger than mitt. Mitt's ego couldn't stand. Maybe Huckabee.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Omniscientone
(12 posts)I think he would have to pick a more populist/small government/religious like guy. Especially since he's seen as out of touch with regular people.
greymattermom
(5,754 posts)Brownback.
opihimoimoi
(52,426 posts)tokenlib
(4,186 posts)JUST KIDDING... The Mayor sure crawled under my skin today....
sofa king
(10,857 posts)There are a lot of people who think they own Mitt Romney, but I think the LDS knows it owns Romney. And they'll want Huntsman.
Casandia
(658 posts)loggerboots
(11 posts)For the same reason McCain couldn't pick her, it's not her politics,it's the personal company she keeps,things are pretty well known in Palo Alto. (Wink)
ryan waller
(6 posts)In bizarro world where abortion is the most important issue, no Republican would tap Condi as Veep since she's pro-choice.
Better for us, because she'd be a good choice from an election point of view for the GOP.
madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Either he's going to piss off the teabaggers or alienate what's left of the moderate and independant voters.
I also think many GOPers see this as a losing situation and won't want to be on the ticket - similiar to 2008. They would rather wait until 2016 when the GOP has a better chance of winning again.