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Issa even accused General David Petraeus of lying for the administration. As soon as Gregory would call Issa on one thing, hed say he was investigating something else. Issa accused Tom Pickering of refusing to testify when in fact, Issa had not invited him to speak and Pickering was told that the Republican majority did not want him there. Issa ended up backtracking on that one, too, and it was super awkward when it came out that Issa never asked for him to appear.
Transcript at link..
http://www.politicususa.com/badly-darrell-issa-david-gregory-fails-gop-shill.html
From Sarah Jones at PoliticusUSA.. Thank you, Sarah!
Thought this should be out there since there seems to be so much Impeachment fearmongering and "Benghazi's the ONE!!11".
Updated:
Ambassador Thomas Pickering responds to Congressman Darrell Issas claim that the diplomat should testify on the Benghazi incident.
http://www.nbcnews.com/video/meet-the-press/51858359#51858393
Ambassador Pickering: I Was Willing To Testify On Benghazi
"Yes, I'm willing to testify," Pickering told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell on Wednesday. "I made that clear yesterday. The White House I understand made that clear to Mr. Issa. He declined. I don't know the reasons for that, made some statement about perhaps sometime later we could come, but I was very interested in being there, because i thought the testimony this morning might be important with respect to the accountability review board and its work."
Pickering co-chaired an independent accountability review board on behalf of the State Department in the aftermath of the Benghazi attacks. A spokesman for Issa disputed his account, saying that committee rules prevented late additions to the witness list.
At link.. Issa spokesman, Fred Hill, more or less called Adm Pickering a liar.http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/ambassador-pickering-i-was-willing-to-testify-on
Thanks to DonVieo for heads up on updates!
Cleita
(75,480 posts)Gregory lets the Repubs lie with impunity and he never pushes back on them. I'm happy that he's growing a spine and that he especially put that snake Issa in the hot seat.
We People
(619 posts)liberalmike27
(2,479 posts)Mostly Gregory allowing Issa to continually interrupt Pickering, which really threw the old guy off, and was obviously irritating him.
IT doesn't surprise me that the ex car-thief Darryl Issa was pushing for the attack on Hillary's 2016 run, or another Impeachment ruse. It's either those 2 things, or maybe just an attempt to appear to be doing SOMETHING, by a Congress that is completely worthless.
But yea, for the most party Gregory is a shill for the GOP, and just because he makes ONE little push-back on the right-wing moronic spinners once and a while, on something so totally obvious that no one is being fooled anyway, doesn't "redeem" him.
Parable Arable
(126 posts)Figured I might as well say it... What with his lack of Vertebral column and all.
Cha
(297,275 posts)credit for that.
irisblue
(32,978 posts)One of the 99
(2,280 posts)The GOP elite know that Benghazi is a big loser for them. It is only the extremists in the party, like Issa, that are pushing it now. Thus, the GOP elite want this killed as soon as possible. Gregory was doing their dirty work for them.
Cha
(297,275 posts)Last edited Sun May 12, 2013, 11:03 PM - Edit history (1)
only one who's sick of it!
AlinPA
(15,071 posts)BrotherIvan
(9,126 posts)The old boys aren't done quite yet.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)But look but look at these attacks on U.S. interest spanning Republican and Democratic administrations including President Bushs administration. Why is there not more of an effort to beef up security after these attacks happen and even, you you know, even before this happened in Benghazi? (Oh, God, do not go to the Republican defunding of security, David, or else all is lost for Issa .)
REP. ISSA:
David
GREGORY:
And isnt this Congresss job to spend the money to beef up security? (BOOM goes the dynamite.)
REP. ISSA:
David, I well, first of all, money is spent by the the secretary of state and her people. We appropriate the money. (Apparently Issa, who listed other areas of great security concern, does not understand the word appropriations as in, you have X amount, and you must make it work all over the world. Good luck. Oh, and by the way, were decreasing your funding and then were going to blame you for not being able to see into the future.)
BOOM! SHAKALAKA!!!! BOOM!
Cha
(297,275 posts)I Updated my OP with Pickering's statment at the bottom.
Issa's spokesguy, Fred Hill.. is basically calling Adm Pickering a liar!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)If nothing else, just to rub their noses in that over and over...
Cha
(297,275 posts)facts all Over!
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)David Gregory just grew a pair!
YES! Great interview with Gregory.
AMB. THOMAS PICKERING (Former Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs/Chair, Accountability Review Board on Benghazi): That is not true.
Issa should follow his own advice! " You know, lets not blow things out of proportion." Correct Darrell. Maybe you should stop blowing Benghazi out of proportion! You talk about lies and deceipt that lasting for almost a month? Really? Where were you when Bushco lied and deceived our country for 8 years! Where was the outrage then! Hmmmm?
And that smirk he has on his face makes me ill.
Cha
(297,275 posts)she. Please see Update in OP.
I'm a wuss I can barely stand to look at Issa's pic much less view the Vid to see him smirking. He needs to be held accountable for all his Lies and Smirks. What a glorious Karmic blowback that would be!
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)Lies is one of several books published in 2003 written by American liberals challenging the viewpoints of conservatives such as Bernard Goldberg, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter. These books by Franken and fellow authors such as Joe Conason, Michael Moore and Jim Hightower were described by columnist Molly Ivins as the "great liberal backlash of 2003."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lies_and_the_Lying_Liars_Who_Tell_Them
I had just finished reading them when you posted. Great updates from you and Don!
Thanks Cha!
Cha
(297,275 posts)brainyquotes collection on Lying...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=305020
Above all .. those who run our country shouldn't be lying and if they do they should be Ostracized. Instead the US media ELEVATES them. grrr
hue
(4,949 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)sheshe2
(83,785 posts)DU
We are the band of brothers and we
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Committee to find out why Issa lied to the American public. I enjoyed watching Gregory keeping Issa in the hot seat and especially when Pickering corrected Issa on getting Pickering to testify. Issa tried to let it appear Puckering had refused, nope not the case. If Issa is lying about this he is not to be believed. It wasn't so comfortable for Issa, where is your evidence Issa.
BumRushDaShow
(129,053 posts)http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/may/10/itv-deborah-turness-nbc-news
This is now the 2nd time that he has called out the thugs in the past couple weeks (a record for him) although he has always wrapped himself in their ideology.
Cha
(297,275 posts)So the new boss..not the same as the old boss?
And, British! One can hope Deborah Turness actually wants her newspeope to ask the difficult questions and forget about softball. Not just on Dems.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)I don't mind when the media asks tough questions of Democrats, but I want them to ask tough questions of both sides. Imagine if the media had asked the tough questions in the run up to the war?
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)First, point to the September 12, 2012 speech of Obama in the Rose Garden on WhiteHouse.gov and of Hillary Clinton also on Sept. 12. 2012 possibly in the State Department.
Then how about this September 12, 2012 report that the attack was most likely an Al Qaeda attack. This is from CBS Evening News and the announcer begins by stating the date, Sept. 12, 2012.
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7421510n
If CBS knew, why does Issa now claim that Obama tried to hide the truth about the Benghazi attack.
sheshe2
(83,785 posts)Cha
(297,275 posts)Good Finds, you!
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)Apparently today 42% of Americans disapprove of the way Obama handled this tragedy/attack. Robert Gates has spoken and his words carry more weight than Issa.
"Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates told CBS News that Republican lawmakers who are blasting President Barack Obamas administration for failing to take military action during last Septembers surprise attacks in Benghazi have a cartoonish view of the military.
I listened to the testimony of [Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta] and [Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Martin Dempsey], Gates explained to CBS host Bob Schieffer in an interview that aired on Sunday. And, frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were.
We dont have a ready force standing by in the Middle East despite all the turmoil thats going on with planes on strip alert, troops ready to deploy at a moments notice. And so, getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/12/gates-benghazi-obsessed-republicans-have-cartoonish-view-of-military-capability/
Cha
(297,275 posts)SiSC!
Very Important.. so glad Schieffer had him on. Someone posted on DU yesterday that there should be some heavy hitters on Sunday to counteract the accusations. Thinking Gates qualifies!
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)It is hard to imagine that David Gregory did what a news-person is suppose to do, Thank you and keep up the good work David, I will keep my fingers crossed.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)Yes.
ffr
(22,670 posts)Maybe he likes cookies with milk before his afternoon nap.
vinny9698
(1,016 posts)Would be like coming and saying the world is flat because a Pope said so in the 14th century.
KauaiK
(544 posts)Issa:
1. Used car dealer out of San Diego
2. Financed the recall of Gov. Gray Davis for Karl Rove
3. Rove promised Issa the CA Gov then financed Ahhhnold.
4. Helped Rove get into the House and on the Judiciary Committee
5. Issa had been charged with gun violations (and jail I think).
There is so much more. Someone with a platform should expose Issa.
Bigredhunk
(1,350 posts)He also stole cars, then ended up inventing a vehicular anti-theft device and made $$ off it. You can't make this stuff up.
Hekate
(90,708 posts)... you can draw different conclusions from it.
On the one hand, he appears to have a checkered past and a misspent youth, but that he turned himself around after he got into ROTC and the Army Reserve (great evals from Wesley Clark). If you are a Republican, you can conclude that his financial and political success, and the fact that he is not in jail, are signs of his innocence (at least in the legal sense).
On the other hand, he appears to have a checkered past, present, and probably future -- he far-too-often for coincidence appears to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, with charges conveniently dropped; his foreclosure on Steal Stopper's prior owner's mortgage for one missed payment was technically legal, but ethically dubious; the arson fire at the Steal Stopper and Quantum factory and offices followed on Issa massively increasing his fire insurance, but nothing could be conclusively proven against him, so all he got was a reduced pay-out. All that before he moved to California.
Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_Issa
hue
(4,949 posts)HoosierRadical
(390 posts)What a unpleasant surprise it must have been for Issa to appear on MTP the day Gregory decided to be a journalist.
P.S. To my DU sisters & brothers, do NOT take any comfort that here isn't a real scandal or cover-up, do you honesty believe the GOP will allow the TRUTH to get in their way?
pansypoo53219
(20,977 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)but don't expect the GOP to admit it
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)A backbone from Gregory, wow! Follow ups to non softball questions. All bets are off now, this is like Lindsay Lohan going clean and sober.
Actually before he got this gig David Gregory was no pushover. Welcome back David, now don't backslide.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)He might be the wealthiest member of Congress but no amount of money will buy back his credibility. Gregory's not "cooperating" as a usually reliable conservative shill must have really thrown him off.