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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Tue May 14, 2013, 05:50 PM May 2013

Another GOP Obama Scandal Falls Apart as It Is Revealed the IRS also Targeted Liberals (in 2012)



Another GOP Obama Scandal Falls Apart as It Is Revealed the IRS also Targeted Liberals

The latest Republican Obama scandal is starting to fall apart too. The IRS didn’t just target conservative groups. They also questioned the tax exempt status of liberal groups too.

In 2012, The Chicago Tribune reported on the IRS denying tax exempt status to a liberal political group,

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Full article here: http://www.politicususa.com/gop-scandal-falls-irs-targeted-liberals-2012.html?utm_campaign=122824&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitter



Be sure to read the full article, it's is good one



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Another GOP Obama Scandal Falls Apart as It Is Revealed the IRS also Targeted Liberals (in 2012) (Original Post) Tx4obama May 2013 OP
Bookmarking for when I get home. Thanks. Tarheel_Dem May 2013 #1
Oh bummer for them and all those who are Cha May 2013 #2
The media are still running with this IRS thing (and the Benghazi) Rosa Luxemburg May 2013 #28
The things I miss not watching "media" for Cha May 2013 #29
You mean Nelson Muntz from the Simpsons? Jamaal510 May 2013 #33
Wonder if those liberals' libodem May 2013 #3
kick samsingh May 2013 #4
Wish my President were as outraged over big brother's targeting of OWS protesters indepat May 2013 #5
^^ this^^ Myrina May 2013 #12
Exactly. nt historylovr May 2013 #27
this doesn't make sense Enrique May 2013 #6
Huh? Did you click on the Chicago Tribune hyper-link in the article? Tx4obama May 2013 #9
Jlian Barnes said IRS audit triggered by complaints abt NAACP. He has the list, most Rs in congress CarmanK May 2013 #7
The truth be told... too late. tecelote May 2013 #8
And whose job John2 May 2013 #21
They are too busy amplifying GOP talking points emulatorloo May 2013 #22
That's what the Social Media is for.. the US corporatemedia is lazy and disingenous. Cha May 2013 #30
It doesn't fit the RW narrative to remember this Sheepshank May 2013 #10
True that! calimary May 2013 #11
With partisan politics, cognitive dissonance is the GOP/TP's friend We People May 2013 #32
The IRS has, of course, apologized Dragonfli May 2013 #13
There's a twist not highlighted. Igel May 2013 #19
kick Number23 May 2013 #14
I wonder where this will appear in the evening news? Vietnameravet May 2013 #15
I knew there had to be at least one liberal group that was targeted marshall May 2013 #16
Bummers! Hulk May 2013 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Hulk May 2013 #18
That's some enormous spin you've got there, Heinrich nikto May 2013 #31
My bad... Hulk May 2013 #38
You are forgiven! nikto May 2013 #39
Thanks! Hulk May 2013 #40
AND the GOPers shut down Iliyah May 2013 #20
I remember when they talked about maybe auditing the All Saints Episcopal JDPriestly May 2013 #23
I guess I am just missing this "scandal" completely Skittles May 2013 #24
yeah, and let me just say this Cosmocat May 2013 #37
Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 May 2013 #25
But they've always harassed liberal groups. Somehow, Congress and the media have failed to note that villager May 2013 #26
The question is: Will the so-called "LIBRUL MEDIA" report on this fact? Will Chris Matthews Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #34
And yet Obama only cared that the IRS targeted conservative groups. forestpath May 2013 #35
I believe at the time of Obama's statement no one had yet talked/known about the liberal groups. Tx4obama May 2013 #36

Cha

(297,574 posts)
2. Oh bummer for them and all those who are
Tue May 14, 2013, 05:57 PM
May 2013

trying to make hay out of it. Sucks to be them.

HaHA.. where's that Bart Simpson kid?

thanks Tx

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
28. The media are still running with this IRS thing (and the Benghazi)
Wed May 15, 2013, 12:58 AM
May 2013

no one has called the media out for reporting such garbage

libodem

(19,288 posts)
3. Wonder if those liberals'
Tue May 14, 2013, 05:58 PM
May 2013

Message was 'taxed enough ready', too?
Wonder if they made the point of their organizations to evade paying taxes?

What I'm saying is the conservative groups are very verbal about not believing in paying their fair share. Seems like they asked for it.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
5. Wish my President were as outraged over big brother's targeting of OWS protesters
Tue May 14, 2013, 06:21 PM
May 2013

Last edited Tue May 14, 2013, 08:47 PM - Edit history (1)

for harassment, assault, pepper spraying, and even arrest as he has expressed outrage over the IRS's alleged targeting of conservative groups which had applied for tax exempt status ostensibly so big brother would effectively be partially funding the daily smearing and trashing of him by these groups.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
6. this doesn't make sense
Tue May 14, 2013, 06:28 PM
May 2013

that article doesn't even address the issue, let alone destroy the case.

But making sense is not the mission of politicususa.com

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
9. Huh? Did you click on the Chicago Tribune hyper-link in the article?
Tue May 14, 2013, 06:54 PM
May 2013

What is it that you think wasn't addressed?



tecelote

(5,122 posts)
8. The truth be told... too late.
Tue May 14, 2013, 06:52 PM
May 2013

Out of everyone that heard about this scandal, how many will hear about this?

The Republicans message got out.

How many people heard:
Another Obama Scandal

But will never hear:
Another GOP Obama Scandal Falls Apart

Cha

(297,574 posts)
30. That's what the Social Media is for.. the US corporatemedia is lazy and disingenous.
Wed May 15, 2013, 01:14 AM
May 2013

It's our job to pass the facts around.

Liberal Librarian @Lib_Librarian

Holder recused himself from investigation. Deputy AG who ordered subpoena left in March. Press & GOP look like this: pic.twitter.com/OeTPPkPjfG


http://theobamadiary.com/2013/05/14/the-day-jonathan-karl-ran-out-of-juice/#comments

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022842213

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
10. It doesn't fit the RW narrative to remember this
Tue May 14, 2013, 06:58 PM
May 2013

don't expect this little stroll down memory lane to be acknowledged by the RW spew machine.

We People

(619 posts)
32. With partisan politics, cognitive dissonance is the GOP/TP's friend
Wed May 15, 2013, 03:54 PM
May 2013

It's their form of insurance against Truth

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
13. The IRS has, of course, apologized
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:14 PM
May 2013

And at today's press conference, the President said that, if true, the IRS's actions were "outrageous and there's no place for it." Those responsible will "be held fully accountable."

Thank Gawd Obama is outraged by the harassment of liberals! Or was it the baggers? hard to keep it all straight.

Personally, I thought the baggers were just whining because they didn't want to pay taxes while promoting bagger politicians, because you know, tax laws don't apply to Ayn Randians.

At least it is fair, both sides were investigated and "it [IRS] took the actions against" the bagger as well as "the two groups defined as tax-exempt under the 501(c)(4) section of the tax code." that were liberal and mentioned in your story. it is true right?

That

"the IRS denying tax exempt status to a liberal political group" also took away that status from the baggers that were whining about being looked at or you would not so easily prove both sides were treated the same.

If it were not true the baggers didn't lose their tax exempt status and were treated much better than the liberals and Obama only defended the right here and not the left. We all know that would never be true. Don't we?

Igel

(35,350 posts)
19. There's a twist not highlighted.
Tue May 14, 2013, 08:08 PM
May 2013

Exempt status was eventually granted the conservative groups. However they were held to a higher standard and additional review than most groups. That singled them out for a violation of due process prior to any allegation of wrong doing. Even if the occasional liberal group was singled out for additional review, the higher standards were applied disproportionately, given what's been said so far.



The exempt group that lost its status had been granted its status and had abused it. Now, it's possible that they were singled out for special review and that multiple other groups engaged in the same behavior and weren't punished. That hasn't been shown, however.

That's not good. It all might not be bad, but this particular article confounds two dissimilar and unequal kinds of things, claims that they're similar and equal, and because we want them to be similar and equal in order to make the annoyance go away we gladly agree. Disproportionate is equal, prior review for unproven but suspected future violations is the same as punishment for violations past and proven.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
17. Bummers!
Tue May 14, 2013, 07:57 PM
May 2013

Must be rough to hate someone so bad, and not being able to pin a legitimate reason "why" to it. Oh well...they'll keep digging, I'm sure.

Response to Tx4obama (Original post)

 

nikto

(3,284 posts)
31. That's some enormous spin you've got there, Heinrich
Wed May 15, 2013, 02:23 PM
May 2013

Er, I mean, Bulk.

1-sided much?

U R full of shit.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
38. My bad...
Mon May 20, 2013, 01:34 AM
May 2013

I was searching Google for ALL the witch hunting the gop'ers were on with the Clintons, and I neglected to read them closely. Later, I realized it was not a site with ALL the "x-gates" that arose, but rather an actual right wing site that had listed the selected ones and gave their reasons for WHY they were "valid", which is actual BS.

I'm not really full of shit, but I certainly didn't do my proofing before posting. I did go back on the site and looked for my posting so I could self-delete, but apparently the thread was already put to sleep, because I couldn't locate it; and consequently gave up and figured it was past.

I noticed that there were other "x-gates" that were not listed, such as "trooper-gate", and that's because even the reich wingers couldn't justify some of their witch hunting.

Hope this makes sense. I'm not losing sleep over it; but it was poor editing on my part.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
40. Thanks!
Wed May 22, 2013, 03:54 PM
May 2013

I feel much better now, although a bit ashamed for posting something I didn't actually read and comprehend from top to bottom.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
23. I remember when they talked about maybe auditing the All Saints Episcopal
Tue May 14, 2013, 09:09 PM
May 2013

Church in Pasadena. Nothing came of it. But --- an Episcopal Church???

That was the Bush administration. And the "offense" was an anti-war sermon. It was not specifically aimed at any particular politician.

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/the-resistible-fall-of-europe--an-interview-with-george-soros

Skittles

(153,185 posts)
24. I guess I am just missing this "scandal" completely
Tue May 14, 2013, 09:47 PM
May 2013

isn't the IRS *SUPPOSED* to investigate tax-exempt statuses? And wouldn't people who BRAG about their extreme aversion AS A POLITICAL PARTY to all things taxes be naturally targeted???

Cosmocat

(14,568 posts)
37. yeah, and let me just say this
Wed May 15, 2013, 05:52 PM
May 2013

I agree, completely.

I don't get the concern over the IRS ensuring that non-profits are no engaging in political activities they should not be engaging in.

Also, there is LITTLE doubt, none, that if their were liberal groups, it would be totally fine.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
26. But they've always harassed liberal groups. Somehow, Congress and the media have failed to note that
Tue May 14, 2013, 10:53 PM
May 2013

n/t

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
34. The question is: Will the so-called "LIBRUL MEDIA" report on this fact? Will Chris Matthews
Wed May 15, 2013, 04:25 PM
May 2013

stop salivating and creaming his pants over the prospect of an Obama scandal and cover this developing story? My guess is that it won't happen.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
36. I believe at the time of Obama's statement no one had yet talked/known about the liberal groups.
Wed May 15, 2013, 05:44 PM
May 2013

Hard to talk/care about something you do not yet know about.

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