2016 Postmortem
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For 4 1/2 years Republicans have pushed the democrats around knowing that the Dems. have little appetite for fighting back. The lies and misrepresentations over the so called 3 scandals which the republicans have pushed for the last week have for the most part been exposed for what they are...
Made up stories to distract the American people from the real issues of unemployment and the overall evaporation of the middle class.
Why arent dems setting up war rooms in the House and Senate... inviting reporters in on a round the clock basis..to fully discuss each lying scandal on an hourly basis... I mean there should be a pot of coffee brewing and doughnuts for everyone in this round the clock operation...New news would be brought in whenever another lie is uncovered and reporters would have full access to this info as soon as it arrives. There would be chalkboards,updated info sheets and links to other war rooms around the country... This would be one example how the weak dems. could actually throw a punch or two.. in order to show that we are not going to cower any more... A War Room for Christ Sakes..
Take the shit to them instead of letting them control the storyline...
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)It is done 24/7/365.
All media(regular and altmedia) hates the President and Hillary Clinton.
Therefore they continue lies that already are debunked.
The groovy, most delicious irony is, 95% of the democratic party loves President Obama and Hillary Clinton and avidly supports both of them.
And the people know smear jobs and sniff them out instantly.
Therefore every single day a smear job continues, I figure means an extra million votes in 2016 for Hillary45.
I got her pegged to win 115 million popular votes (the record is less than 70mil) and around 500 electoral votes out of 538.(one can dream if they keep it up of 538-0).
80-20 is now going to be a reality.
The media(regular/altmedia) 50-50 has been 100% thoroughly debunked.
Say it loud, say it proud, I am working to continue the 2 terms of President Obama forever
and Hillary45 will be the 3rd and 4th term.
watoos
(7,142 posts)they are simply corporate-controlled. Just as Republicans allow ALEC to write their Bills, the media gets its narrative from its corporate sponsors. The biggest lie out there is that the media is liberal. But yes I agree that is why Dems are hog tied, the media is and has been hog tied by corporate interests. Even msnbc is controlled. They can give a liberal slant to the narrative, until they go too far, but their narrative is basically the same as the other cable news networks.
Here's a simple example; let's say the narrative today is; Has Obama stopped beating his wife yet? msnbc will say yes, cnn will say maybe, and Fox will have cut and paste video proving Obama beats his wife.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and groovy will be when the 20 is rendered OBSOLETE by the voting booth 80
in congress and in life itself
Just this week, they voted 100% to pass along a judge after the legendary Harry Reid gave an ultimatum and the rightwingers all blinked in unison and stopped their lunacy for a day or two
it works. It is infectious.
And those 95% of the democratic party that supports Barack Obama and Hillary45 are going to reap the benefits in 2016.
(of course, the other 5% will also reap the benefits, but they will still whine I bet.)
but by then, their whine will be left undrunk.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)But at this point we have little chance of winning the House and we will have to struggle with retaining the Senate! At least 7 more years of this crap!
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and the house is every two years
However, if the senate should slide back, don't assume the repubs will all vote for the repubs.
History shows it is not neccesarily so, and if Hillary looks like a shoe-in, it might behoove the more moderate repubs to switch
as did one repub a few years back.
We have to let it play out.
Markey is a big one in Mass. Hope he wins.
BTW, I have high hopes for the house in 2014.
after all, if the ins are out, the repubs are in, therefore they will be out
WHICH is why IMHO knowing Hillary will be the nominee might get the people to get to the booths and find 30 seats to change
Why not?
We don't need to win 100% just a small number.
same with governors and state assemblies and every other national office.
All it takes is for all democratic voters to vote straight democratic and not care about a wedge issue.
Just do it.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)Those red state nuts will likely never be thrown out!!
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)don't assume women won't vote different than expected in 2014
What is it 18 we need to win?
and in 2016 coattails
and only voting straight democratic every single election will insure the smaller positions are democratic candidates
any one protest vote not for a democratic candidate is technically 2 votes for the republican party
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)The Woman Vote is a game changer!
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)You have suffered some sort of break with reality. I guess it's good that you have a place to babble without hurting anyone, but you take up a lost of space with posts that are light years from reality.
LeftInTX
(25,555 posts)I don't know what the problem is.
We've got lots of Dems in congress.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)Just look at ABC News. They gladly went with the doctored Benghazi emails and what have they done about it. Absolutely nothing. Zilch. At a minimum they need to apologize for the shoddy reporting on this story, fire Jonathan Karl and release the name(s) of the Republicans that fed them this garbage. By doing nothing they invite more doctored data while losing all credibility as a reliable news source -- the worst of both worlds. Instead they cower at the feet of the Republican bullies.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)thank you, you get it.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)30 years of careful screening and hiring have ensured that the TV stations, Radio stations, and newspapers are staffed by right-wing Repukes. they have their own journalism schools, think tanks, terrorist organizations (see David Horowitz), and so on. Anyone who is liberal is flushed out of the propaganda system early on.
savebigbird
(417 posts)Perhaps they just don't want to play into republican antics.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)I guess that's the right way to go for some...
savebigbird
(417 posts)Some people call that "being the better man."
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)So while your bromide sounds great, it still amounts to losing. And if giving the country away to terrorists = "Being the better man", it's possible your definition needs some tuning
savebigbird
(417 posts)I believe I've already said that.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)pound the crap out of GOP bullies. That is just what they need to do. And yes, get out in front and CONTROL THE MESSAGE.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)win at the end of the game
not some temporary battle that is meaningless
but when the final score is tallied, being the winner
anything else is just a Frankenstein monsters mob scene or gladiator in the arena looking for blood and revenge that doesn't work
dot all the I's
cross all the T's
and the 80 will render the 20 politically obsolete in short due time
Keep your eye on the long term prize
The spirit of Jackie Robinson forever.
42 would say 80-20 and render the 20 obsolete.
rainy
(6,095 posts)go along with the republicans so their efforts are from an underdog second class position. When dems try to squak about an issue they can barley get air time but the wealthy owned republicans get paraded around daily. After 911 there were no US congress members being put on the Sunday shows destroying bush for his faults. Then it was treason to speak bad of a sitting republican president in the mainstream. The true left got zero air time. Just look at how many predominant republicans constantly are on tv destroying the character of good dems but dems are not allowed to talk ugly about republicans they know the rich republican owned media will ruin them if they do.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)over again... Shout out new findings about Rep.lies.. A citizen for truth hot line. If it was loud enough the press would cover it....
rainy
(6,095 posts)Would have done to a democratic president if 911 would have happened on their watch. They would have absolutely destroyed the dem because predominant republicans would have had full support of the press. It is ok to publically bash dems republican not so much.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)I have yet to see a Democratic majority, Democratic President, or a Democrat minority fight effectively for any of the ideals that a person with commonsense knows in their bones are worthy of the backbone and strategy.
The problem with Democrats representing progressive ideals is that they usually don't.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Some people say it is because it is playing 9-dimensional chess.
Some people say it is because he must avoid looking like "Angry Black Man".
I say it is just who he is, and who he is is mostly a get-along good-ole-boy who wants to make sure he has a nice soft landing after doing his 8 years.
graham4anything
(11,464 posts)He is going for forever, not for just 8 years.
instant gratification pleases the gladiator fans, but does not win a war of this nation.
Never did.
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)This is so we will identify with one of two different teams. Then we root for our team and overlook it when they drop the ball or commit a foul! Get the campaign cash and the lobbiest out and and vote in Representative government! You would be amazed out how much more sanity returns. OUR GOVERNMENT IS AN FREAKIN JOKE!!!!!
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)We all saw how they shook in their boots when they had majorities and did nothing to rock that corporate boat. They accomplished nothing of consequence for the working class.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Calling them afraid is giving them the benefit of the doubt. If they're not sniveling cowards they must be willing participants in the Repukes' destruction of the country.
forestpath
(3,102 posts)n/t
on point
(2,506 posts)bamacrat
(3,867 posts)If truth and reality prevailed they wouldn't be, but the pukes scream the loudest and have the most crazies in their ranks. They will bombard the airwaves with all sorts of misinformation that the uniformed masses gobble up like hot cakes. (always wanted to use that saying) People who have enough rational thought to look beyond their own selfish interests and enjoy the truth, regardless of who it is about then we would have 90% of the house and Senate. We would also have Single Payer, more electric cars, affordable college, legal weed, better roads, high speed rail..well you get the point.
These "scandals" are a feeble attempt to throw the country back 50 years, gladly they have not prevailed.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)The purchase of our government with corporate money is bipartisan.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)And people they have targeted, like Gabby Giffords, have been victims of assassination attempts. So I think being wary of fucking repukes is wise.