2016 Postmortem
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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/07/davis-popular-but-gubernatorial-bid-a-long-shot.htmlgraham4anything
(11,464 posts)it should be portrayed as a positive not a negative.
Perry is only at 53, and 70% of the people do NOT want him to run again
Plenty of room for Wendy Davis to move up, and I would be a good number of people do not even know her name yet.
In fact, I think it said about 36 do not.
So with a great campaign, major fundraising (and it WILL be there), this could be a very winnable race.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)I'm not sure she's the best person to take on the governor just yet, most people know nothing about most of her views aside from women's rights (though she may be the most willing person to run: when Castro said last year he thought TX would be a swing state in 4-6 years I interpreted that to mean he wasn't considering a run for governor in 2014). We'll see what her popularity does through the summer and fall, if she's still popular then I say why not. A conservative third-party candidate that would split Perry's on-the-fence voters just might do the trick, he doesn't have a very large base that's loyal to him.
And in spite of whoever runs for governor, someone competent needs to take on Ted Cruz in 2018 when demographics will be more favorable. I didn't think it was possible to dislike a politician more than Perry but oh how wrong I was.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Rs throw money at those kind of people all the time.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)Priceless
msongs
(67,413 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,479 posts)Good one.
Davis has a future, for sure, but one stand on one issue doesn't make her the next savior of the Democratic party. I love what she did, but what's her stand on the hundreds of other issues of import? I'm sure she's better than Perry on all of them, but does that mean Texas would elect her Governor? I would hope so, but I'm not sure yet.
But... she certainly has momentum now, so she should go for it.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)be re-elected and Texas will not turn blue any time soon.
I thank PPP for injecting reality. Maybe those who insulted me will take the time to apologize, but I highly doubt it.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)It would be tough because Texas is the king of racial-gerrymandering voter districts.
Even counties, down to entire neighborhoods very segregated by class and/or race. At the most local of levels they keep a close watch & tight rein against those who don't belong.
Nanjing to Seoul
(2,088 posts)Every D voting isn't going to happen.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)They may not be able to walk through some neighborhoods, speak politics at work, or protest without backlash. Hopefully, many more Ds will 'closet' vote- as the R screws turn tighter and tighter.
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stevenleser
(32,886 posts)some serious position in the administration, then the next Democratic President needs to do the same in 2016 and then in 2024 Davis can run for President and by that time she will have all the years up until now of experience in state government and eleven years of national government experience.
I don't think Texas is ready to elect a Democrat to statewide office. Demographically it's coming, but I dont want to see Davis try and have her career hurt by a defeat.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)The GOPers are already gearing up to stop her from a running state-wide and will call her an "Obamacrat," 24-7-365. Why parade it? Besides, she needs to gut it out in a state wide race. Win one, and Democrats and Texans will know at least one torpedo in the spread hit the bastuds.
MOST IMPORTANTLY:
If she runs and wins on her own, SHE will have done it with her ground-up organization which, by DEFINITION, will be more powerful and viable than the entire Texas "party," and will have greater impact than any counter-productive association with national Democrats.
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)brooklynite
(94,591 posts)It's weak and disorganized, and not in a position to deliver a strong statewide vote for Davis or anyone else.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Rozlee
(2,529 posts)like Ann Richards did. Clayton Williams was doing good in his run against Ann Richards until he made his comment about how rape is like bad weather in Texas; if it's inevitable you should just sit back and enjoy it. Lately, with all the contraceptive and reproductive wars going on, those misogynists are sure to be running off at the mouth, making their pro-rape comments and making Clayton sound like a piker. It might create the same kind of backlash among women that it did back then that propelled Ann Richards to victory. We have a target rich environment of loud mouth anti-choice conservatives down here that will be only too glad to serve as flame throwers and indulge in the most hideous gender politics imaginable. Am I being terrible for imagining such a delicious scenario? Who gives a damn! This is war. It's a shame to think that in this day and age, Clayton might actually have been more evolved than today's rank and file Republicans. He only said rape was enjoyable. Not a blessing or a gift from God and he didn't propose legislation to allow rapists to keep their victims from terminating abortions they caused by their assaults.