2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"Pres Obama isn’t someone you wish you could have a beer with,he’s someone you did have a beer with"
Posted on 04/24/2012 at 6:00 pm by JM Ashby
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Check this out, all right. Im the president of the United States. We only finished paying off our student loans off about eight years ago. That wasnt that long ago. And that wasnt easyespecially because when we had Malia and Sasha, were supposed to be saving up for their college educations, and were still paying off our college educations.
I didnt just read about this. I didnt just get some talking points about this. I didnt just get a policy briefing on this.
We didnt come from wealthy families. When we graduated from college and law school we had a mountain of debt. When we married, we got poor together. We added up our assets and there were no assets. And we added up our liabilities and there were lot of liabilitiesbasically in the form of student loans.
We added up our assets and there were no assets.
When the president says he and his wife added up their assets and there were no assets, he may as well be speaking a foreign language to a man like Mitt Romney went to college on his assets which were handed to him. And while thats fine for anyone who has been afforded that luxury in life, the idea that Romney can in any way relate to the average American is absurd.
To have a sitting president level with his audience and, with all due humility, relate directly to his constituents in this way is something President Obama is uniquely capable of doing. Because hes been there. Because he knows the value of humility.
No bumper-sticker, television commercial, radio ad, or phony slogan can match this relation in its appeal.
President Obama isnt someone you wish you could have a beer with, hes someone you did have a beer with.
http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2012/04/with-all-due-humility.html
babylonsister
(171,073 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Response to Pirate Smile (Original post)
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teewrex
(96 posts)rich people are different. They have no concept of the way the real world works. At one point we were on food stamps and yet she actually told him that he does not know the value of a dollar. He will be voting Obama.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)to be on the same page about money. I credit the fact that both my husband and I came from families that struggled for our long, enduring marriage. That is the one issue you have to agree on at least with regard to the basics.
The Green Manalishi
(1,054 posts)In my case I grew up "middle class"; we never really worried about being homeless or missing a meal, and I was able to go to the local junior college and even state university, but there was no money for luxuries. Never actually on food stamps but never really far away.
In a way I think the strength of this country *IS* the middle class. The rich really do not know the value of money, at least not what it means to be without it or having to make choices.
The truly poor are often equally disadvantaged as they sometimes never really learn how to handle it, make it work for them - at least that is my observation of many of the friends I have who grew up truly poor, they are bad at saving and budgeting even once they have a semi decent income.
Anyway, I think the President hit this one out of the park.
cmd
(5,673 posts)He did work at one point in college - selling those very expensive knives to all his parents friends. He won some award for selling the most knives. What a joke.
They broke up when my daughter was invited on a family vacation to Kennebunkport.
The rich kid met her at the airport in Boston and relayed to her a list of how she was to behave when she was with the family. She got on the next airplane home. I was so proud of her.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)It has the ring of truth. He really connects the dots with people that Rmoney can only dream about (if THAT!).
This is classic. And classy. He does class "warfare" without bitterness or envy or self pity.
The sequel to this is that he wrote some books that became best sellers. He did that. He didn't make his fortune dumping people out of jobs, or driving good businesses over a cliff of debt. He didn't impoverish one single person with his own ambition.
People can connect at the cellular level with this man. Only blood-in-the-eye snarling right wingers cannot empathize because they are mentally ill or mentally midgets.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)marshall gaines
(347 posts)true
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)there is a pause and he adds, for emphasis - as if he needs to- "I'm the President of the United States" his voice is close to incredulous to what he's about to say. And everyone there, and viewing, is drawn in... and the entire campus building roars with empathy and wild applause!
What a master! Because he's real.
Bake
(21,977 posts)That whole thing gave me goose bumps. Our President is ACTUALLY ONE OF US!
Bake
FailureToCommunicate
(14,014 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)president. He lives in your shoes. That's it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)So conservatives should actually admire him.
Johnny2X2X
(19,067 posts)This is another reason why the Freepers hate him. He is not an elite, he had roughly the same opportunities as anyone else did and he made the most of them by working hard and graduating from a great school. He then worked hard to pay off his debt and now he became President. The Freepers are more jealous of people who came from similar backgrounds as they did, but achieved more, someone like R-Money they hate less because he is royalty and had a huge head start on them so it doesn't reflect poorly on them that he ended up wealthy, after all, how could Romney have ended up anything other than filthy rich?
They absolutely hate hate hate that Obama came from modest means and is the great American success story that they aren't. I don't think there is any doubt that Obama knows the value of a dollar and knows what a days work means. Romney cannot hide his privileged upbringing. He has never struggled, he has never known the value of a dollar, and I doubt if he's ever labored a day in his life.
colorado_ufo
(5,734 posts)Romney as his opposing candidate is the gift that keeps on giving.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Barry seems more like a guy I would have smoked a joint with, instead of a beer, back in the day. Is this is a bit of a puff piece saying the Prez. is "uniquely capable" of relating to people with humility?
Still, he's definitely got my vote. After all there really is no choice. I criticize him all the time but I do like that he is a regular guy, with life experiences that are very similar to mine.
And I'm hoping that gives him the motivation to fight for working class + middle class people all the time instead of bending over backwards to appease Wall Street banks and cutting shitty deals with the gop and persecuting weed smokers.
But I still like him for some reason even though the excitement and hope from his 2008 campaign is gone for me, replaced by more realistic expectations.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Romney splash slush all over me as he blew by -- didn't even look in my direction.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,235 posts)Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Pirate Smile
President Obama looks more and more like a decent, good man, who could do good for USA, if he ever got the chance.. The four first year have been hard for him - and it show.. But dam he is good... And hopefully will continue to be a good president the next 4 years after winning the election... I hope he is elected as the next president - as I believe mr Romney is a horrible choice for president, even if he was just to be president for four years... He could, and would do horrible thing, not just on the outside of US, but also inside the US.. He is maybe not that bad as GWB was - but dam he is close...
If I have had the possibility to vote in a US general election - I would have voted President Barack Hussein Obama without doubt... As I have not that possibility I hope at least to se the next president be Mr Obama, and not Romney... Not because he member of the LDS Church - mostly because I do believe him to be a clear and present danger pure and simple.. What US need today is not another BUSH clone.. What US need are persons, who is able to repair the horrible damage been made to the once republic, from foreign enemies, but also from enemies inside your own country... And you have a lot of the latter, who would try to damage US from inside - and not everyone of them bear turban or is muslims..
Diclotican
MindMover
(5,016 posts)HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)Sounds like a hoot. It would be better if they brought some weed, but we could get by on beer wine and liquor.
Mopar151
(9,989 posts)I said this line to my Mom, when we were talking about the Depression on the farm. She simply said "That was us." My grandmother kept the cookie jar full, because you never knew when someone was going to show up hungry. Her cookie recipie was part of her eulogy.