2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCory Booker Is Even Worse Than His Critics Say
Yes, he's preferable to the repuke, but that is faint praise indeed.
Cory Booker has just won New Jerseys Democratic Senate primary in a rout, making him an easy favorite to claim the seat this fall. But even stronger than the pundit consensus that Booker will soon be in Washington is the belief that the camera-savvy Twitter celebrity will be a rabble-rouser once he gets there. He would be a disruptor, the pros at NBCs First Read have predicted. Someone who wants to shake things up. A vehicle for bringing street-level experience to a Senate that often seems disembodied from the whole planet, is how The New York Times endorsement put it. No less an expert than Booker himself has suggested that agitprop will be his preferred mode of discourse, approvingly citing Ted Cruz and Rand Paul as his senatorial role models.
You might be inclined to conclude from this that Booker intends to be the Senates liberal consciencesomeone who can channel the progressive id from a perch inside Washington, in the same way that Cruz and Paul function as voices of the Tea Party from deep within the capital. Booker is, after all, an inner-city Democrat from a solidly blue state, whose predecessor was a reliably liberal vote. Who better than him to swing for the fences? But, if you happened to conclude this, youd be way off the mark. What Booker has in mind when he alludes to being an agitator is agitating for the cause of himself.
I can demonstrate this with almost mathematical precision. After all, as Alex Pareene of Salon has pointed out, Booker shares a worldview with the financial elites who fund his campaigns. If one can deduce from his record and his public statements, he believes the economy functions best when wealthy people are allowed to deploy their capital freely, and that progress ensues when they train some of their gains on society's illsthe charity of the benevolent elite, as Pareene labels it. This is why Booker was so affronted by the Obama campaigns denunciations of the private equity industry back in 2012. And its why he apparently sees no conflict in holding public office while making millions from a tech start-up funded by the Silicon-Valley elect. (Booker briefly took a shot at translating this worldview into policy during the campaignhinting that hed be open to raising the Social Security retirement age for young peoplebefore backtracking furiously when progressives called him on it.)
This is all fine, of coursesubscribing to these beliefs is hardly a crime even if its not my cup of tea. But heres whats so curious: If theres one worldview that doesnt need high-profile agitators to advance its reach, its the worldview of the moneyed classes. This is the worldview that already dominates Washington. It funds politicians and think tanks. It clutters the op-ed pages. It pours forth from the characters who fill your television on Sunday morning. (Come to think of it, maybe both kinds of characters who fill your television Sunday mornings
) As a result, its hard to believe that what drives Booker is the need to spread the good word.
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http://www.newrepublic.com/article/114300/cory-booker-wins-primary-hes-even-worse-critics-say?google_editors_picks=true
Arctic Dave
(13,812 posts)he seems to take all of Obama's bad traits but much worse.
busterbrown
(8,515 posts)when he is in the national spot light.. Obama has handled these kind of attacks very well.. A little too well sometimes in my opinion.. He just seems to trudge forward..
Maybe Corey will change his attitude when he quickly realizes that his close financial friends are the ones who push the racism..
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)It's curious that progressives couldn't do better against him in a closed primary in a Democratic state where the GOP opponent has virtually no chance.
Why?
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)Any questions?
MADem
(135,425 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)but whatever. It's not like you care for progressive anything and you're always eager to defend the status quo. and no, actual liberals don't have much use for him at all.
Here, have a good hearty chew and then let's hear more lame denial from you. I'm sure you'll oblige.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/08/liberals-un-endorse-cory-booker-just-he-becomes-shoo-senate/68278/
http://www.salon.com/2013/08/13/dont_vote_for_cory_booker/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2013/01/06/the-secret-e-mails-about-mark-zuckerbergs-100-million-to-newark-schools/
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/08/13/yes_cory_booker_s_victory_will_be_lousy_for_progressives.html
MADem
(135,425 posts)....to use your cutsie little sentence construction.
Go shit on someone else. My comment was limited to "consider the source"
Have a swell sanctimonious day, now.
cali
(114,904 posts)I post facts. you dismiss anything that doesn't fit with your towering confirmation bias jonesing.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Typically.
GeorgeGist
(25,321 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Butt right into a conversation to pompously say absolutely NOTHING, save "Goodbye!" Quite rich, that!
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)This was an ideal race to show off progressive electoral muscle. Democratic state. Closed Democratic primary. No fear of the GOP opponent in the general. And Booker supposedly one of the worst of the "Turd Way" worst. Yet progressives couldn't field a candidate who could even come close. The chosen progressive candidate pulled less than 20% of the vote. This would be the easiest electoral field for progressives outside of a Bernie Sanders' reelection bid. And yet progressives failed utterly in preventing the ascension of Booker. It's weird that progressives would want to bring this up at all. It's a resounding embarrassment, and calls into question whether we can get any progressive elected to anything ever. We can't beat the Wall Street candidate in a closed Democratic primary in New Jersey? That's pretty dismal.
MADem
(135,425 posts)No one wants to be told what an inferior shithead they are, and that seems to be the marketing strategy from some corners of the progressive end of the Big Tent.
Bernie Sanders is a pragmatist. He persuades, he doesn't finger wag. He talks with, not down to. He compromises when the result is a way forward.
People should take a lesson from him, and from the ghost of Wellstone, instead of acting like scolding assholes.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)will be met by a thousand cries that money trumps all.
Of course the progressive message and strategy is severely counterproductive...if the goal is getting elected. Unfortunately, the goal seems to be feeling good about oneself and drawing a circle around the righteous: typical group identity stuff rather than actual politics. So, yeah. That's why Booker will be the Senator from new Jersey, while various so-called progressives will be able to huff and puff and have their little complaint session, which seems to be all they really want anyway.
MADem
(135,425 posts)(and I use the word advisedly, because the person could be a troll for all I know) tell me that because I objected to the gassing of civilians in Syria, that I was in favor of a US-Syria war and was a warmonger.
Nothing could be further from the truth. I don't want to see US troops anywhere near Syria.
It's this kind of crap that makes DU suck, when people will misrepresent your POV in an effort to start fights on the board.
I guess one can take that sanctimonious, intolerant attitude writ large, and see why progressives have a hard time of it. Too much finger wagging and lecturing, bullying and mocking, and not enough listening and empathizing.
That kind of shit doomed the right wing of the GOP, too.
Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)You're implying that "the progressive message and strategy" should have been different and then a progressive (presumably Holt or Pallone) would have won. Exactly what different message and strategy should that have been? Neither of them focused on "typical group identity stuff"; they focused on issues. For example, one of the campaign ads that got the most attention was a Holt ad asserting that Booker "doesn't support" a list of things like reinstating Glass-Steagall. Booker's campaign cried foul, responding that he hadn't taken a position on the subject. That seemed to me to be conceding the ad's accuracy. Anyway, whatever you think of Glass-Steagall, it's not group identity stuff.
The most prominent evidence of "group identity stuff" came from the media, not the candidates. Although Booker was the early favorite, there was media speculation about whether the entry of Oliver, the fourth candidate, would cut into Booker's vote, because both of them are black. (In the end, Oliver finished well behind, so she was no threat to Booker's victory.)
Some people who charge that progressives wish only to complain would advance a specific practical prescription: that progressives move to the right. In other words, they should cease to be progressives, and then they might be able to compete with other non-progressives like Booker. Is that your view?
Here's my take on the election: Booker is a superb media manipulator. It's likely that more voters in the primary had heard the phonied-up story of his rescuing a freezing dog than could even tell you what the Glass-Steagall Act did. Because quite a few wealthy donors supported Booker, he outspent the other candidates. (No, I don't believe that "money trumps all" -- some candidates have won despite being outspent, but money sure makes a hell of a difference.) Another factor was Lautenberg's death and the resulting snap campaign. Booker's advantages of money and higher name recognition would have meant less in a normal campaign stretching over several months, because his opponents would have had more chance to get their message out.
Alas, we are now likely to be stuck with Booker for decades.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)loveandlight
(207 posts)I think one of the biggest issues for this Senate campaign was the short time span. Gov. Christie made a good call for his pal Booker (yes, Christie is a Repub and Booker supposedly a Democrat, but they support each other in too many ways) and for himself in the November governor's election by setting up this early election for the Senate seat and keeping it off the November ballot, where the Democrats might have had a better run against Christie for the governor's seat. So in the end, progressive message is not the biggest issue here. Timing and money and media coverage all converge to make the election of Booker and Christie almost a foregone conclusion.
FYI, the people of NJ don't appear to be as progressive as the rest of the country thinks they are. Live here for a while and you'll see, it is all in little pockets around the state and the power of NJ progressives his been dimmed by the light of Christie's bullying persona. And the money interests in the state which dominate both the Republican and Democrat party. In fact, Christie's claim to bipartisanship is really just based in the money, both parties care more about that than the people here in NJ. Those are just my thoughts though. Maybe someone else has a more positive outlook than me.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)The reason Booker is gliding to an easy victory is that he had already had a campaign structure planned for 2014 and I believe he either had or had promises for funding. With the death of Senator Lautenberg he had a steep advantage over any other Ds.
I have my reservations about him, but will wait and see what happens once he is elected.
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)>>>Someone who wants to shake things up. A vehicle for bringing street-level experience to a Senate that often seems disembodied from the whole planet, is how The New York Times endorsement put it.>>>>
.... in an upper-middle-class family magically imbues someone w. "street-level experience."
haikugal
(6,476 posts)Wilks is discussing "The Nehemiah Plan," a term that is being used to discuss Transformation campaigns around the country. The audio is poor, but it's worth the effort. The transcript is below the video.
http://www.talk2action.org/story/2013/8/13/101739/702
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Throw the progressives a few bones on issues that don't concern the 1%, but be a force in protecting the banksters and in opening up new opportunities for them to steal money. Make lots of great-sounding speeches.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts).
kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)from the peanut gallery.
mgcgulfcoast
(1,127 posts)Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)Myrina
(12,296 posts)Sadly.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That says it all right there.