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Esquire: The Reign of Morons is Here (Original Post) LiberalElite Oct 2013 OP
"You rang?" - RepubliBaggers (R) Berlum Oct 2013 #1
I love the - LiberalElite Oct 2013 #2
Laughing while thinking, very true. ffr Oct 2013 #3
Note this passage in particular. CBHagman Oct 2013 #4
And there is the rub Doctor_J Jan 2014 #9
Well, the Democrats' language may be strong... CBHagman Jan 2014 #10
Big Media doesn't "skew rightward". They are paid operatives of the far right Doctor_J Jan 2014 #11
Democrats language.. sendero Jan 2014 #13
brilliant... Blue_Tires Jan 2014 #12
Great comment on that page: Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2013 #5
Reply Toby Bate Dec 2013 #6
good article treestar Dec 2013 #7
Great. Thank you. Yes, the republicans are eating monkey brains. AlinPA Dec 2013 #8

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
4. Note this passage in particular.
Sun Oct 6, 2013, 12:48 PM
Oct 2013

I'm not posting this to cause despair, because in politics, we truly don't know how something will play out -- for instance, Bill Clinton has and has long had a sizable number of enemies, but who among us could have predicted his approval ratings would rise the more Ken Starr investigated him? -- but because it calls out the press on its complicity in repeating stock talking points.

[url]http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Shutdown_Blues[/url]

What is there to be done? The first and most important thing is to recognize how we came to this pass. Both sides did not do this. Both sides are not to blame. There is no compromise to be had here that will leave the current structure of the government intact. There can be no reward for this behavior. I am less sanguine than are many people that this whole thing will redound to the credit of the Democratic party. For that to happen, the country would have to make a nuanced judgment over who is to blame that, I believe, will be discouraged by the courtier press of the Beltway and that, in any case, the country has not shown itself capable of making. For that to happen, the Democratic party would have to be demonstrably ruthless enough to risk its own political standing to make the point, which the Democratic party never has shown itself capable of doing. With the vandals tucked away in safe, gerrymandered districts, and their control over state governments probably unshaken by events in Washington, there will be no great wave election that sweeps them out of power. I do not see profound political consequences for enough of them to change the character of a Congress gone delusional. The only real consequences will be felt by the millions of people affected by what this Congress has forced upon the nation, which was the whole point all along.



 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
9. And there is the rub
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:23 AM
Jan 2014

The party as it is now will not stand up to the republicans, regardless of how insane or malignant they act. Someone needs to tell the president that both sides are not to blame.

I have almost no hope that the dc dems will stand firm against the loonies.

CBHagman

(16,987 posts)
10. Well, the Democrats' language may be strong...
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:42 PM
Jan 2014

...but the media skews rightwards both in terms of focus and in acceptance of talking points. Even if you have a Mitt Romney "Corporations are people" moment or a GOP politician with a zipper problem, the media will still grade Republicans on a curve and/or echo Frank Luntz or other pollsters.

But we don't have to buy into that or be quiet. We can use the Democratic tendency towards pessimism as a means to motivate rather than deflate.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
11. Big Media doesn't "skew rightward". They are paid operatives of the far right
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jan 2014

and I would be happy to hear some ways we might counteract that (ways that actually might work).

sendero

(28,552 posts)
13. Democrats language..
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 06:46 AM
Jan 2014

... is rarely strong, and that is a lot of the problem. Outside of Grayson, Warren and Sanders, they are afraid of their own shadow.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,771 posts)
5. Great comment on that page:
Mon Oct 7, 2013, 03:48 AM
Oct 2013

David Nangle · Top Commenter · Billerica Memorial High School
This Congress should only be flown by pilots that don't believe in flight. They should only be treated by doctors that don't believe in medicine, or the efficacy of surgery. They should live in houses built by people that don't believe in carpentry. And they should eat only food prepared by people that don't believe in cooking, or the germ theory of disease.

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