2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe next Ted Cruz: Meet the Tea Party idol who could oust a top House Republican
Tea Party challenger Art Halvorson tells Salon that Boehner's not "man enough" to lead, and new House will oust himBY JOSH EIDELSON
After their government shutdown and debt ceiling stand-off ended in disappointment, some Tea Party groups are turning their sights on avenging their perceived betrayal in next years Republican primaries. Heres one to watch: in Southwest Pennsylvania, right-wing Coast Guard retiree and real estate developer Art Halvorson is out to oust incumbent Bill Shuster, who chairs the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee and inherited the seat from his father in 2001. Shuster voted for the Boehner-backed deal that ended the shutdown; Halvorson is endorsed by RedStates Erick Erickson and the Madison Project PAC, which last summer was already running ads slamming Shuster for voting eight times to raise the debt ceiling.
If Tea Party challengers like Halvorson pull off upsets next year, what kind of candidates or congressmen will they be? In a wide-ranging Monday interview, Shuster told Salon that nothing would have changed if the debt ceiling wasnt raised, advocated weaning Americans off of dependence on Medicare and Social Security, and bemoaned the end of the gold standard. He also had harsh words for Barack Obama (easily intimidated and prone to anger), John Boehner (not man enough), and even Paul Ryan. A condensed version of our conversation follows.
What did you make of the vote last week to pass a [continuing resolution] and raise the debt ceiling?
I thought it was a betrayal of the American people
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http://www.salon.com/2013/10/22/the_next_ted_cruz_meet_the_tea_party_idol_who_could_oust_a_top_house_republican/
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(53,475 posts)Drale
(7,932 posts)not for a new Tea Bagger, for a Democrat because we will retake the house next year
sofa king
(10,857 posts)As noted above, Democrats have a chance to flip the House, lord willing and the creeks don't rise.
But if we have to deal with a Republican-controlled House in the next Congress, we'll almost certainly be dealing with John Boehner as Speaker, for a number of reasons.
First, Boehner and the combined staves of the House Republican Leadership are infinitely more adept at exploiting parliamentary rules than the Tea Partiers who have slashed their way into the Republican works. Being a Tea Partier almost necessarily shackles that person with predictable um, abilities, or lack thereof. One of those lacking traits is an inability to learn easily or well. Yes, I am calling them stupid. Stupid Congressmen make stupid choices about their own staff and stupid choices about how they execute their plans--as we have so vividly experienced in the past month.
A right-wing authoritarian loses to a sociopath who pretends to be a right-winger, like Boehner, every time. This is because the socipaths are not beholden to any moral, ethical, or dogmatic considerations. It's true that Republican leadership has been losing its grip over the past several years. In the past I have likened this process to a melting peanut butter cup: a thin shell of evil containing an oozing mass of stupid inside. The hold of "evil" Republicans over "stupid" Republicans has been steadily eroding, to be sure, but I don't think they're going anywhere just yet--not in this case, anyway.
Second, Boehner has successfully fought off such challenges in the past and those opponents, such as Eric Cantor, have quite likely already been neutralized through threat of disclosure. It is entirely safe to assume, I think, that all Republicans in Congress are corrupt, and therefore vulnerable to disclosure of some sort. The longer they stay in the House and the more times they plot to usurp the standing leadership, the more likely those people are to have already had the dirt dug on them. So the new kids get no help from the schemers on the fringes of Republican leadership, this time.
Third, the position of the Speaker, historically, has been most powerful when wielded against one's own party. Consider for example the failed coup attempt against Newt Gingrich in mid-1997. John Boehner himself and a fellow you've never heard about named Bill Paxon plotted to overthrow Gingrich and put Paxon in his place, but their plan was betrayed by Dick Armey to Newt Gingrich. Gingrich totally destroyed Paxon's up-and-coming career, forever (by threatening to toss Paxon out of the closet, I have it on the best authority).
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/1997/07/21/time/gingrich.html
Boehner himself was ejected from his leadership position the following year and he spent eight years on ice until his scheming against Tom Delay finally paid off in 2006. He shall never forget that lesson.
So Boehner knows all the tricks, tips and pratfalls of this game, and his opposition is too stupid to learn them. Speaker or Minority Leader, we are still likely to be dealing with him.