She would not weather the down and dirty politics well, her family does not want to be dragged through it, and she has declined. It's nothing like speaking before committees or even leading them. There is decorum in the Senate and she comes off as a lady.

There is dirty, mud-slinging street fighting political gore on the national campaign. Hillary is ready for it...can kick butt and take names. For some of those same reasons, I've not supported her in the past, but for this election, that's what it's going to take.

... while I think I could admire Hilary's ability to fight with fire, I'm scared to death of her (imo heartfelt and sincere) desire to appeal to corporate friendly moderates on both sides.

A freaking billion dollars. And it takes 3 years...calls are already being made to Iowa. PACs are forming. That's what it takes to win...either side. It's the Koch Brothers vs George Soros. Monopoly democracy. Sad, but true.

Those who run against Hillary in the Primary are in it pretty much for publicity for a later run or a VP or Cabinet position when they step back (like happened to her). My new mantra is it's either 20 years of Bushes or 16 years of Clinton...take your pick. I made my choice.

In 2012 the Koch brothers bundled $400 million and donated another $100 million. Sheldon Adelson donated $150 million.

George Soros donated $2.5 million.

We didn't win the fundraising race with aristocratic money last time, and we don't need it this time either.

not much for Soros to donate , is it?

but partisan, yeah radical Tea Party supporters. That's how they stacked the House. Takes a lot of money to do that. Half a billion each in 2004. It hasn't gotten any cheaper. There are no limits or required financial records on money given to PACs. Citizen's United insanity. And, yes we, as did they spend enormous amounts of Corporate Money. That is a "they both do it" fact. Sad.

" Presidential Prices

The price tag on the 2012 presidential election is set to be the biggest ever. As of Jan. 31, total spending by candidates neared $228 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. That's not counting the dollars flowing from outside groups such as super-PACs. By comparison, presidential candidates in the 2008 race spent a total of more than $1 billion, up from $717.9 million in 2004 and $343.1 million in 2000. To get a feel for where some of that money goes, click on "

http://www.bloomberg.com/consumer-spending/2012-03-02/the-real-cost-of-a-presidential-campaign.html

It's going to be Clinton vs. Rubio.

Done.

At this time, I don't take any talk of a Warren Run seriously.

Howard Dean has expressed in interest in running, so at this time I see it a Clinton/Dean race and I would support Dean in a primary.

yum.

And Kerry ...

I'm still bitter about that.


And I'd still like to see him as President. Or Elizabeth Warren. Or Sherrod Brown. Or Bernie Sanders.....

*sigh* I can dream....

Until she sets up that committee, or until she announces interest, I don't think it is constructive to consider her.

I think she would be a good candidate. I would like to see her run. I don't expect it.

The party could draft at the convention if no candidate walked away from the primary with enough votes. Back before the current national primary system, Drafting a candidate in a smoke filled room was quite possible, though it was the party bosses that did the drafting.

So that is not going to happen. If she runs, she decides it for herself. So far, she as maintained that she has no intention of running. I respect that.

that they get behind and encourage to run - the way corporate entities and the wealthy "draft" candidates.

That could happen with Warren or someone else.

He is also not someone well loved by the left.