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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:16 PM Oct 2013

House Intell Chair:"You Can't Have Your Privacy Violated if You Don't Know Your Privacy Is Violated"

House Intelligence Chair: "You Can't Have Your Privacy Violated if You Don't Know Your Privacy Is Violated"

By Will Oremus

Anyone have some naked pictures of Mike Rogers, chair of the House Intelligence Committee? Want to send them to me? Don't worry, we won't be violating his privacy unless he finds out about it.

Thanks to Techdirt's Mike Masnick for highlighting this fascinating bit of sophistry from the Michigan Republican and former FBI agent, who is running the hearings charged with reviewing the National Security Agency's mass-surveillance programs. Rogers reportedly plans to introduce legislation that would keep those surveillance programs largely intact, while adding a little more transparency. By his own logic, though, wouldn't that transparency actually harm people's privacy?

Perhaps we should call this little philosophical conundrum "Rogers' paradox" and bring in some of our deepest thinkers to have at it. Or perhaps we should just rephrase the Congressman's stance as, "what you don't know can't hurt you," and recognize it as an age-old excuse for people in power to trample on the rights of those without it. Either way, we should definitely discuss it over wine. What's the ideal pairing, do you suppose, for a little friendly repartee about how best to justify a vast government surveillance program?

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/10/31/house_intelligence_chair_mike_rogers_you_can_t_have_your_privacy_violated.html?wpisrc=newsletter_jcr:content

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House Intell Chair:"You Can't Have Your Privacy Violated if You Don't Know Your Privacy Is Violated" (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2013 OP
This guy is the head of the INTELLIGENCE committee? The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2013 #1
Kurt Vonnegut would have understood this logic perfectly. gordianot Oct 2013 #2
Do you think he has any idea just how stupid that sounds? Scuba Oct 2013 #3
Orwell is spinning-nt PopeOxycontinI Oct 2013 #4

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,824 posts)
1. This guy is the head of the INTELLIGENCE committee?
Thu Oct 31, 2013, 05:25 PM
Oct 2013


So this means it would be perfectly OK for someone to put a hidden camera in my bathroom and watch me bathe and do other bathroom things (not that anyone would want to); my privacy wouldn't be violated as long as I didn't know the camera was there?

WTF?
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