2016 Postmortem
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R.I.P. OBAMACARE REPEAL DRIVEWithout anyone realizing, all mainstream efforts to kill the health law have disappeared. Here's what it all means
BRIAN BEUTLER
Back in July, long before we knew just how turbulent the rollout of the Affordable Care Act would be, and even longer before we knew just how committed Republicans were to the idea that Congress shouldnt boot people out of health insurance, I argued that even modest enrollment would herald the end of the GOPs campaign to repeal Obamacare. That upon launch, but really after January 1, a vote to repeal the law would transform from an abstraction into an attempt to snatch health insurance away from as many as several million people.
Thats a bad vote to take. So I reasoned that big, blunt efforts to destroy Obamacare repeal, defund, delay would cease altogether, and would give way at first to subtler ploys to damage the law, politicking, and then to fights within the conservative tent over how to reckon with a post-Obamacare reality in which all Americans expect reliable access to the health care system.
Well, the rollout has been an embarrassing debacle. First month enrollment figures were so weak that if the law had disappeared on November 1, the vast majority of uninsured people would have never really experienced what was being taken away from them.
Despite all that, the repeal campaign is burning itself out anyhow. And if Healthcare.gov holds up today and through the end of the year, itll be dead. You wouldnt notice that, if your main point of contact with the right is on Twitter or mass emails from fringe conservative pressure groups.
But among elected Republicans, and particularly GOP leaders, repeal has become a purely rhetorical posture. Since the end of the government shutdown fight, House Republicans have taken zero repeal, defund, or delay votes. The one bill it has passed the Keep Your Health Plan Act wasnt intended to be constructive. It was a poison pill. But it was also a strategic blunder, and as a policy proposal it fell far, far short of past attempts to gut the law.
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http://www.salon.com/2013/12/02/r_i_p_obamacare_repeal_movement_crusade_is_officially_dead/
Mass
(27,315 posts)The GOP leadership needs ACA to be there because it is their only attack dog against the Democratic Party next year. They disagree on about anything else and cannot pass anything through Congress, but they all agree ACA is bad.
So, do not hope the attacks against ACA will die. Their goal has never been to repeal the law (except for some idiots). Their goal is purely a propaganda tool (My guess is that we will have a few more repeal votes before 2014. These votes will cost nothing, and they will help campaigning. We will also see the GOP harp on any problem ACA will have -- and there will be some --), but there has been no effort to really defeat it (at least initiated by the GOP leadership) for a while.
This said, their leadership is weak, so we should not discount them to be overrun by the rank-and-file congresspeople.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)this report is about.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)First, you don't take things away from people. Republicans discover that each and every presidential election when they try to campaign on killing Medicare and Social Security - and lose. ObamaCare will be part of that third rail of politics before the midterms heat up.
Poll after poll showed that although the majority of people don't like ObamaCare, the vast majority don't want it repealed. And this was before November 1st.
Also, the whole idea behind the Republicans strategy to kill ObamaCare, was to do it before people actually signed up for it. And they failed. That's why they (and the Kochs) were desperately trying to scare people away from signing up, investing millions of dollars in "Creepy Uncle Sam" ads toward that end.
They know that, no matter how flawed, how inadequate, or how imperfect ObamaCare is now, it's still better than what the vast majority of people have had to suffer before: lower premiums, no lifetime cap, subsidies to help pay your premium, children up to their 26th year may remain on their parents' plan, expanded Medicaid that will include dental, etc., etc., and add to that, the fact that people won't take kindly to, once having acquired something, any efforts to take their one chance at health care insurance away.
It was crucial for Republicans and ObamaCare-detractors to do anything and everything possible to dissuade people from signing up, rather than finding themselves in the position they are now: fight the uphill battle of trying to take health insurance away from people who have already signed up.
Mass
(27,315 posts)My only disagreement is that it was already too late for the GOP to repeal the law when the first measures to include peoplecame into effect (a couple years ago).
People assume that ACA will start on 01/01/2014. It has already started. People are already benefited from it.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)continuing to demonize ObamaCare when they begin their campaigning. That part.
Although we can agree to disagree, history appears to be on my side regarding this. Think Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, and why they're called the "third rail" in politics. My previous post attempted to outline why ObamaCare will be part of that "Do Not Touch!" group very soon.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)It should never, ever, rest in peace.
We should fling its gangrenous corpse at the Republicans every chance we get. It should not rest until the Republican Party itself is buried.
House of Roberts
(5,174 posts)when the Republicans stop trying to kill Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP, the Postal Service, etc.
IOW, when the Republican Party is dead.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)Decades later, Republicans continue to try to kill S.S., Medicare, Medicaid, and SNAP, although now they've changed their campaign rhetoric on "reforming and improving" them rather than killing these vital and popular programs.
Champion Jack
(5,378 posts)Like the pathetic jerk off on CBS news, major "GOP asshole" Garrett.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)It's strange that he's rarely introduced as an ex-Fox "News" Channel "reporter" when he's on shows spewing his bait 'n' switch bull.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)if ACA is going to become the next new issue for the right to kick around at election time but have no real intentions to fully get rid of. Of course, unlike their perennial things that they like to kick around such as Social Security, Medicare, abortion, LGBT equality, etc, ACA is something that affects- or has the potential to affect- everybody in some way or another immediately. Thus, I can only imagine how difficult it will be for them to be able to get a repeal bill through Congress.