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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 06:14 PM Dec 2013

Barack Obama Is Not George W. Bush


By Jonathan Chait

Has Barack Obama turned into George W. Bush? This terrible fate, desperately hoped for since the outset of Obama’s presidency by the Bush administration veterans as a kind of vindication fantasy, has become a new conventional wisdom. It has been floated, with varying levels of certainty, by Chuck Todd, Chris Cillizza, Bill McInturff, Ron Fournier, and Politico.

It is certainly true that Obama’s approval ratings have fallen to Bush-2005 levels. It’s also entirely possible they’ll fall further still: The administration’s panicky preparations for January suggest the first month of actual Obamacare coverage may be just as chaotic and unpopular as the onset of Medicare Part D. Yet the Bush comparisons state, or imply, broader forces at work than mere sagging approval ratings. They suggest a presidency that has hit a new inflection point beyond which its credibility is severed and its agenda broken. And that conclusion falls apart because it completely misses how power works in the Obama era.

If you measure the power of Obama’s presidency as the ability to move his agenda through Congress, his presidency has been dead since Republicans took control of the House in January 2011. If you measure it by his ability to use his popularity to force the opposing party to cooperate, it has literally been dead from the outset. In Obama’s first few weeks, with approval ratings in the seventies, he could not persuade a single House Republican to support a fiscal response to the most dire economic emergency in 80 years.

Bush’s power worked very differently. He enjoyed control of Congress for most of his first term and the first two years of his second. What’s more, his opposition party genuinely feared being seen as obstructionist. Substantial minorities of Democrats decided to vote for elements of Bush’s agenda on the calculation that being seen as bipartisan, and winning narrow concessions, made more political sense than opposing Bush. A dozen Democratic senators voted for the Bush tax cuts, and another seven abstained. Democrats supported the porky energy bill, and could have blocked Medicare Part D through a filibuster but decided not to.

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Barack Obama Is Not George W. Bush (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2013 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Dec 2013 #1
This nonsense again? mcar Dec 2013 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author delrem Dec 2013 #3
Everybody has their opinions. blkmusclmachine Dec 2013 #4
sniff sniff. Whisp Dec 2013 #5
POTUS BO imthevicar Dec 2013 #6
You are speaking TeaLeftist attacks and pipe dreams. RBInMaine Dec 2013 #8
THAT's nice! imthevicar Dec 2013 #10
My biggest complaint with Obama is B Calm Dec 2013 #7
Sort of like ... Impedimentus Dec 2013 #12
Obama's polling is back up to pre-October levels and will rise more as the economy continues to RBInMaine Dec 2013 #9
A very astute observation Impedimentus Dec 2013 #11

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imthevicar

(811 posts)
6. POTUS BO
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 04:55 AM
Dec 2013

has been a Major disappointment.
When I saw His Wall street Appointments, The Fix was In. when the US Government went after Manning he stood quietly cheering for the persecution. When most here at DU along with BO called Snowden a criminal, I was reading what he exposed about the NSA data dragnet. I saw a Hero in exile. Single Payer, Grand Betrayal/Bargain, Drone wars, Medical Hemp reform, TPP. so on and so on and so on. Keep telling me how much better we have it with BO as opposed to a T.P. GOPer. I'll tell you in 2 words, NOT MUCH. Of course we have a few placed well meaning and needed reforms that had strong support, but crickets for the rest.

When I was supporting Mike Gravel's NI4D. the rest here called him a grumpy old man. Well I am declaring My support again for the best people for the job. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders. it would be even better if they ran as a ticket. And Hillery the Corporatist can Kiss my fat ass.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
7. My biggest complaint with Obama is
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 07:57 AM
Dec 2013

he supports more of those Free Trade agreements that destroyed the working class and the union movement.

Impedimentus

(898 posts)
12. Sort of like ...
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 09:55 PM
Dec 2013

Clinton and Bush did. Those Free Trade agreements were only some of the nails in the middle class / working class coffin. Least we forget Clinton's reinstatement of Glass-Steagell, Bush's bankruptcy "reform" that gave the big banks orgasims, and a whole lot of other welfare for the plutocrats "stuff". All those gifts to the big corporations and the plutocracy had to come out of somebody's pocket. President Obama did have lunch with the mega-bank CEO's once or twice and tell them they might think about behaving themselves, just a little, please.
 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
9. Obama's polling is back up to pre-October levels and will rise more as the economy continues to
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 10:18 AM
Dec 2013

improve. It is poised to continue to improve come this new year and next.

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