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tecelote

(5,122 posts)
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 06:15 PM Dec 2013

DRONES & BOMBS IN GENERAL

I don't think bombing solves much except to reduce the number of people that disagree with us at the moment. And, shouldn't that be done intellectually?

A big question you have to ask is… does a bomb kill more people that disagree with us than it creates? One person dies, how many grieve? How many wish revenge?

It’s not a winning strategy in the long run. It’s an immoral short term solution.

America needs to get its priorities straight.

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Igel

(35,317 posts)
3. Depends on the war and the people involved.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:41 PM
Jan 2014

If it's a fairly small group in charge of a herd, or it's possible to convince the enemy that they're defeated when they've lost, then bombs do the trick. Lots of examples of that.

If it's an ideology or most of the group is out to get you for whatever reason and defeat is seen as something that needs to be nurtured, cherished, and avenged even if it's 200 years later, then bombs are a harder way to win victory. Not that "winning hearts and minds" works either. There's a reason that genocide rates in areas with small tribes with strong loyalties were so high. Over a hundred years, genocide yields a lower body count than intermittent warfare that rejects genocide.

For ideologies and such, it's best to just put up a big wall of some sort and hope that the animosities die down or that equal coexistence becomes possible. (Unequal coexistence is usually possible, and while it lets people live eventually they realize life isn't the goal of human life.) Usually takes a rather large cultural or ethnic shift for that to happen: Nobody wins, but one side decisively loses to time.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
4. War is big business for the mic. It's immoral. It's not what the people want...
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:20 PM
Jan 2014

The priorities of our "leaders" are not America's priorities.

When enough people get that, things will change - but it's going to be an ugly revolution because the powers-that-be won't abandon their gravy train without a fight.

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