2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumStates to watch: Arizona and the nine swing states
Chris Cillizza, Washington Post: "Can Obama win Arizona and its 11 electoral votes?":
Democrats from the White House on down insist that history is an imperfect guide when it comes to predicting the competitiveness of Arizona, because of the rapidly growing Latino population.
According to the 2010 Census, three in 10 Arizonans are Latino, up from roughly 25 percent of the states population 10 years ago. In both 2004 and 2008, the Democratic presidential nominee won the Hispanic vote convincingly Kerry by 18 points, Obama by 15 but there simply werent enough Latinos to counter the strong margins the Republican nominee enjoyed among white voters.
The growth among the Latino population along with the presence of Carmona, who is Hispanic, and outrage within the community over Brewers immigration law makes Democrats optimistic that 2012 will be different.
Democrats are also banking on moderate white Republicans particularly women being turned off by the conservative direction Brewer has taken the state, highlighted most recently by her signing a bill that would effectively defund Planned Parenthood.
Also, at the New York Times, Michael Cooper writes: "9 Swing States, Critical to Presidential Race, Are Mixed Lot" (those states are CO, FL, IA, NH, NV, OH, PA, VA, and WI):
All nine voted for Mr. Obama in 2008, only to see Republicans make big gains since then.
Now, with many of those states transformed economically and politically by the recession, they are perhaps even less predictable than they were in past close elections. The disparity in their circumstances highlights the challenges that both the Obama and the Romney campaigns face in framing arguments that will resonate across the country.
But political scientists have found that past elections have been more influenced by the changes in the economy in the year or two before the election. And a range of economic data provided by Moodys Analytics shows that all nine states are rebounding and that most now have unemployment rates below the national average. If voters in those states begin to feel the improvement by the fall and the economy does not take a turn for the worse, it could aid the presidents efforts to hold on to enough of them to win.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)To put North Carolina at 'lean-Republican' when Obama holds an average lead of 2.4 points (bigger than overall margin in '08), yet classify states like Ohio (+4.2 for Obama), Pennsylvania (+7 for Obama) & New Hampshire (+3.5 for Obama) as toss-ups makes no sense. Obama leads in almost every NC poll - including the most recent, a SurveryUSA poll that has him up 4 there. Why is it lean Republican, while Other states are considered toss-ups?
This poll is way too favorable to the Republicans. North Carolina is not a lean-Republican until polls show it as a lean-Republican. Likewise, PA is not a toss-up. When Obama holds an average lead of almost double-digits there, it's lean-Democrat!
Indykatie
(3,696 posts)There is a great interactive map on the Huff Post site that includes all the recent state polling and it shows Obama with 288 electoral votes. Pennsylvania is shown as being a strong Obama state not even lean Dem. Rarely have I seen anyone classify PA as a toss up state.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)For example that at http://electoral-vote.com/ or http://www.270towin.com/ .
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)Given their history, we had better count Ohio and Florida as toss-ups at best.
The Repigs control the government in Pennsylvania now, which is a state we count as a must-win.
There is no way the Repigs could beat Obama fairly this year, but they won't be playing fair.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I hope come September Romney is hurting and Obama's team pushes to win Arizona and goes all in. Even if he won by less in terms of the EC I'd love to see Arizona flip. It would make the wingers go nuts including Brewer the Wicked Witch.