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Related: About this forumUse of Public Transit in U.S. Reaches Highest Level Since 1956
More Americans used buses, trains and subways in 2013 than in any year since 1956 as service improved, local economies grew and travelers increasingly sought alternatives to the automobile for trips within metropolitan areas, the American Public Transportation Association said in a report released on Monday.
The trade group said in its annual report that 10.65 billion passenger trips were taken on transit systems during the year, surpassing the post-1950s peak of 10.59 million in 2008, when gas prices rose to $4 to $5 a gallon.
The ridership in 2013, when gas prices were lower than in 2008, undermines the conventional wisdom that transit use rises when those prices exceed a certain threshold, and suggests that other forces are bolstering enthusiasm for public transportation, said Michael Melaniphy, the president of the association.
Now gas is averaging well under $4 a gallon, the economy is coming back and people are riding transit in record numbers, Mr. Melaniphy said in an interview. Were seeing a fundamental shift in how people are moving about their communities.
From 1995 to 2013, transit ridership rose 37 percent, well ahead of a 20 percent growth in population and a 23 percent increase in vehicle miles traveled, according to the associations data.
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Warpy
(111,301 posts)First, cars are ridiculously expensive even without the gas. Second, instead of fighting traffic, people on mass transit sit and talk or read or knit or listen to music, much more pleasant.
I had a car my last 4 years in Boston. I only used it to get out of the city because food shopping in the burbs was cheaper and I went periodically to visit friends who lived on the Cape.
I have to say I really enjoyed riding mass transit there. I'm a knitter and voracious reader and it was perfect for me.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)of course, they blame the Great Satan Sub-Sa-Dí for it all--but, still...
nxylas
(6,440 posts)The only libertarians I've seen writing on the subject, Wendell Cox and Joel Kotkin, are still vigorously defending the suburban ideal against the creeping socialism represented by mass transit and greater population densities.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)of course, Paulbots say that *true* capitalism forbids poverty, corruption, war, profits, GMOs, suburbs, regulatory capture, market-cornering, monopolies, racism, speculation, pollution, income inequality, wealth inequality, big business, or even PROFIT
Homo catoënsis is of course a mere flack, and is thus even more self-contradictory...
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)took a ride last Friday from Pasadena to Compton during non-rush hour and loved it. It was amazing how many people cleared a path for him and his walker, or held a train door open, or gave up a seat, or just plain smiled at us. He wants to ride all the "colors," but in one day, we racked up the Gold Line, the Red Line and the Blue Line.
So, yes, I'll be forwarding him this article.
K&R
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)If people dont have to spend all their $ on cars, gas and insurance then it frees that money to be spent locally rather than sent off to distant city or nation.
progree
(10,909 posts)I've been exploring metrotransit.org (Twin Cities) since about 2007, and it keeps getting better -- meaning easier to plan trips and get around. And with a smartphone, one doesn't have to plan it all in advance, one can take side trips just by finding out what goes where and when on the fly.
I'm still learning new tricks to find ways to get around when there isn't a direct connection (as is usually the case).
Hopstop.com is interesting too -- lot of different cities.
CrispyQ
(36,487 posts)Cars are expensive & drivers are rude & careless. I can't tell you how many times I've had a close call with some asshole who has to get one car length ahead.
Sadly, many of our services are being cut, not expanded.
rafeh1
(385 posts)This combination lets me commute 35 mi one way. Sold one car. Now only have to get in our van when going somewhere with wifey
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fizzgig
(24,146 posts)but the last bus picks up five hours before i'm done there. my city has bogus public transit.