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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:08 PM Apr 2014

Dem Rep.: 'Members of Congress Are Underpaid,' Can’t Afford to 'Live Decently'


Dem Rep.: ‘Members of Congress Are Underpaid,’ Can’t Afford to ‘Live Decently

Do you think members of Congress are overpaid or underpaid? Most likely you’d go with the former, but Democratic congressman Jim Moran argues it’s actually the latter. In an interview with CQ Roll Call, Moran says, “I think the American people should know that the members of Congress are underpaid.”

The House recently took up a bill to freeze members’ paychecks, placing another halt on the annual cost-of-living pay increases they would normally get and keeping annual salary at $174,000. Moran believes that this is the wrong way to go, not necessarily talking about himself in particular, but saying there are plenty of congressmembers who can’t live on that salar.

“I understand that it’s widely felt that they underperform, but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world.”

The senior appropriator pointed out that some members have taken to living out of their offices to save money, while others have “small little apartment units” that make it impossible to spend the time they should with their families.


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http://www.mediaite.com/online/dem-rep-members-of-congress-are-underpaid-cant-afford-to-live-decently/


AUDIO here: http://blogs.rollcall.com/hill-blotter/moran-members-cant-afford-to-live-decently-in-d-c/

I think Moran needs to live with an ordinary American family for a month (or at a homeless shelter) so he'll learn what being underpaid really means!

Lets give them $10.10 an hour and have them work only 30 hours per week!

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Dem Rep.: 'Members of Congress Are Underpaid,' Can’t Afford to 'Live Decently' (Original Post) Tx4obama Apr 2014 OP
cry me a river.... mike_c Apr 2014 #1
Oh, just put him in a typical "garden apartment" in slumburbia near College Park Warpy Apr 2014 #2
I wonder if he would be more surprised... catnhatnh Apr 2014 #3
fuck that shit frylock Apr 2014 #4
Huh? Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2014 #5
living up to his name... irisblue Apr 2014 #6
But, ohhhh...the big lobbying bucks they get when they retire. n/t Raven Apr 2014 #7
So America is no longer a deathrind Apr 2014 #8
He is a Democrat? $174K is underpaid? Talk about being out of touch! AlinPA Apr 2014 #9
When we complain about the kind of "Democrats" SwankyXomb Apr 2014 #10
I'd support raising Congress' salary, but... Hippo_Tron Apr 2014 #11
I expect them to work! Then we'll talk about a raise. SharonAnn Apr 2014 #21
I would expect this from a Rethug. DCBob Apr 2014 #12
Norhern Virginia needs a primary challenger. LiberalAndProud Apr 2014 #13
174k plus full medical insurance, retirement account, all travel paid, months of paid vacation... Sunlei Apr 2014 #14
HA! blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #15
I thought he was retiring? williesgirl Apr 2014 #16
I suggest.. sendero Apr 2014 #17
while I know many disagree daybranch Apr 2014 #18
I mostly agree Cosmocat Apr 2014 #20
THEY ONLY WORK 3 days a week now!!!! a kennedy Apr 2014 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #22

Warpy

(111,339 posts)
2. Oh, just put him in a typical "garden apartment" in slumburbia near College Park
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:11 PM
Apr 2014

with a bunch of clump footed college students upstairs.

He'd be able to afford that easily.

He'd get used to commuting.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
3. I wonder if he would be more surprised...
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:22 PM
Apr 2014

By how small his paycheck was of how long 30 hours of actual work seems....

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,437 posts)
5. Huh?
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:22 PM
Apr 2014


I'd gladly take $174K Maybe some of those struggling members of Congress are attempting to live beyond their means?

irisblue

(33,023 posts)
6. living up to his name...
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 07:28 PM
Apr 2014

and a Dem too...and has a sketchy history with the stock market (from Wikipedia) "In November 2011, author Peter Schweizer published a book, Throw Them All Out, which included an allegation that Moran used information he got from a September 16, 2008 briefing, in which Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned of an impending financial crisis, for his stock market activity:
"September 17, 2008, was by far Moran’s most active trading day of the year. He dumped shares in Goldman Sachs, General Dynamics, Franklin Resources, Flowserve Corporation, Ecolabs, Edison International, Electronic Arts, DirecTV, Conoco, Procter & Gamble, AT&T, Apple, CVS, Cisco, Chubb, and a dozen more companies."
Schweizer alleged that Moran made more than 90 trades that day." Can we toss him out of the party?

deathrind

(1,786 posts)
8. So America is no longer a
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:02 PM
Apr 2014

a country... it is a corporation.

"but the fact is that this is the board of directors for the largest economic entity in the world.”

Wow...

SwankyXomb

(2,030 posts)
10. When we complain about the kind of "Democrats"
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:05 PM
Apr 2014

we are being told we have to support in the name of "party unity", the Blue Dogs, the Third Way, and other sorts of DINOs, this is exactly the sort of shit-for-brains bat-felcher we're talking about.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
11. I'd support raising Congress' salary, but...
Thu Apr 3, 2014, 08:14 PM
Apr 2014

When they complain about it, it's reeks of how completely oblivious they are to how the rest of us live. Congress needs to enact the kind of social safety nets that they have in Canada and Western Europe. Once they do that, I'd be fine with addressing the issues that they face with having to maintain two residences.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
14. 174k plus full medical insurance, retirement account, all travel paid, months of paid vacation...
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 01:28 AM
Apr 2014

office with a full staff. So sleep in your huge, multi rooms, 'office', free.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
17. I suggest..
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:15 AM
Apr 2014

.... that this fellow do what we are ALL told to do when in his situation. GO FIND A BETTER PAYING JOB. And good luck with that, dillweed.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
18. while I know many disagree
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 07:40 AM
Apr 2014

you get what you pay for. When a Congressman is trying to keep two residences even if ine is an apartment, live in a very expensive city, fly home to see their family and or meet with constiuents as well as attend the various social functions, dress appropriately etc. , $174, ooo may not be enough. Burt then why don't they just accept the corporate jets, the cruises and vacations from lobbyists , I guess alot of people here have little respect for a Congressman and apparently think they could do a better job or believe thety cpuld hire someone at a lower rate to do the job as well. Yet it is this kind of thinking that opens our system up to the Koch Brothers, Alec etc. I really do not know how much they should get paid, but I certainly am not willing to cast aside the brave statements made without some knowledge of the actual situation. I see so many people with agendas who want to rationalize everything. I would rather know what I am talking about than make everything I say agree with what I want to believe.
I find a lot of these bitter comments very sad. I am a progressive populist and I recognize the country and so many are suffering but opinions without facts is of no help. These people he is saying are underpaid are probably the most honest of public servants. They likely are the ones who can feel our pain and want to do something about it. They are most like us.

Cosmocat

(14,573 posts)
20. I mostly agree
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:18 AM
Apr 2014

Maintaining two residences, particularly one in DC is pretty tough.

They also live on two year contracts, two years of $170,000 ... For an AVERAGE person it is hard to live at the level of having two residences with one DC when you might be unemployed in any two year period.

I tend to think they SHOULD be paid well and $170,000 is a fair rate on its own.

An answer would be to have something developed to provide REASONABLE living situations in DC for them - plenty of oversight of it.

But, minus that commitment I think $170,000 a year for again, being on a two year contract, is reasonable.

People need to step up to their own responsibility here.

Everyone wants to reelect THEIR idiot congressperson while pointing to the other 500+ idiots and screaming about the system.

Our system is fine.

What does not work in this country is 1) People not showing to vote 2) People collectively making bad decisions.

It really isn't THEIR fault, the bad politicians.

They are who they are.

It is the fault of the people who keep reupping their contracts.

This is a look in the mirror thing, collectively.

a kennedy

(29,707 posts)
19. THEY ONLY WORK 3 days a week now!!!!
Fri Apr 4, 2014, 08:05 AM
Apr 2014
Watching C-SPIN, they never are working on Monday or Friday...... THEY ONLY WORK 3 DAYS A WEEK, and he thinks they're underpaid?? OMGawd.

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