2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumOK...what ARE Elizabeth Warren's views on social issues?
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It's often been pointed out that Warren was a Republican at one point and that therefore, she was a supporter, at least in theory, of politicians who took "Religious Right" stands on issues involving women's issues and LGBTQ rights.
Whatever the motivation of those who have raised the question, we probably should try to find out.
Does anybody know, for example, what her voting record in the Senate is on choice and LGBTQ rights?
Or of how she's rated by LGBTQ and reproductive rights groups?
It's time to establish, through her votes and deeds, where Senator Warren comes down on these issues now, as opposed to in the past.
This is not an anti-Warren thread in intent...it's just about establishing the facts here.
Post any info you have on these points.
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phleshdef
(11,936 posts)In 1995 to be exact.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Just want to get her voting record out there.
This isn't an anti-Warren thread.
It's just that some have made an issue of this, and it's probably fair to make sure we all know whatever the answers are on this.
phleshdef
(11,936 posts)I dunno what her social positions are, I just assumed she was pro-choice and pro-LGBT rights, etc.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)I've now changed "until the last few years" to "at one point".
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)blkmusclmachine
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Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)On LGBTQ rights:
"She supports same-sex marriage, repealing DOMA, and passing the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA)"
On reproductive choice:
"She is pro-choice and opposes any Supreme Court nominees who oppose abortion"
Well, that would appear to answer the questions in general.
Anyone NOT satisfied with that?
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Are you able to find her speaking on these things at all?
Does she explain when she stopped opposing choice and equality and started supporting those things, does she indicate any of the thought processes that caused her to stop being anti gay? She was part of the most viciously anti gay Party in the history of America.
Until her Reagan era, LGBT were not very organized as voters. Her Reagan was so despicable and the stakes so high that we became a very active group of Democratic voters. This was, by the way, in spite of years of intolerance by the DNC, local Parties and candidates. Yeah. Bill Clinton was the first nominee of our Party to speak of LGBT people as a part of the Party. This was also a result of newly found and well motivated partisan activism.
I just have a hard time thinking kindly of anyone who was on the other side of those barricades at the demonstrations against the Reagan Republicans. If you had seen what I have seen, my friend, you too would not rush to embrace members of that group without very specific words of apology from them. It was the Time Of The Youthful Deathbed.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)These issues are clearly not something that ranks high on her list of priorities.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)We (the 99%) have been under attack the last 34 years by the elites, that has to be our top priority now.
(And thats the reason Hillary isnt a good choice at this time.)
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Particularly, women, PoC, and the LGBTQ community. Wonder why that is.
DJ13
(23,671 posts)Just a guess.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)We are hurting financially, but the question is whether racism/sexism plays a role in that. PoC would say yes.
4lbs
(6,855 posts)The only disagreement is the legalization of marijuana.
She opposes it, I am for it.
That's it. One conflict out of 50 agreements.
So, if I ever get a chance to vote for her, I would.
InAbLuEsTaTe
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Karma13612
(4,552 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)I know this is hard for you Straights to understand. Go watch The Normal Heart, understand that Warren was a Reaganite, and try to imagine what that means.
We were in the streets constantly protesting her Party, attempting to reverse the horrific policies she supported.
Why was she like that? Why was she opposed to choice? Why did she favor a policy of ignoring the growing AIDS crisis for years and years? Was that something she did out of a hope all of us would die and relieve her of the sinners or what?
Her Party was discussing relocation camps.
She has never felt it was worth speaking about. She has never explained her loyalty to death. She needs to.
Frankly, as it stands, I'd rather vote for Hillary. Warren is an affected right winger who cares only about money.
Those of you who say 'I don't care about social issues, just economic issues understand neither social nor economic issues, much less the convergence of the two. Those who say that are saying something which is basically bigoted and incorrect.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)She is pretty much an economic liberal, but in some issues she is far more conservative.
Nov. 19, 2013 S Amdt 2175 Authorizes the Use of Funds for the Transfer or Release of Guantanamo Detainees to the United States Amendment Rejected - Senate
(52 - 46) Nay
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(43 - 55) Nay
For example. As usual...it's complicated.
MineralMan
(146,290 posts)She has said very little about social issues. Unless she runs in 2016, I imagine she will remain silent on those. If she does run, she'll face pointed questions. That may influence her decision. You are right to ask.
