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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 03:10 PM Jun 2014

How President Obama will be impeached

How President Obama will be impeached

PostPartisan
By Jonathan Capehart June 18 at 4:22 PM

Writing about Rep. Eric Cantor’s (R-Va.) stunning primary defeat last week, I warned Democrats that the House majority leader’s loss was as much a wake-up call for them as it was for the GOP. Well, now I want to warn them about a very real possibility: President Obama will be impeached if the Democrats lose control of the U.S. Senate.

Yeah, yeah, I read Aaron Blake’s astute piece in The Post on the impeachment process. He says “probably not” to the question of whether the House could impeach Obama. But “probably” is not “definitely.” And with the way the impeachment talk has gone, “probably not” could become “absolutely” if the Senate flips to the Republicans.

Rep. Lou Barletta (R-Pa.) became the latest to openly discuss impeaching the president. In response to a question from a radio host on Monday, the two-term congressman who was swept in during the tea party wave of 2010, said, Obama is “just absolutely ignoring the Constitution and ignoring the laws and ignoring the checks and balances.” Articles of impeachment, he added, “probably could” pass in the House.
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I’ve said this before and I’ll keep repeating it until the message sinks in for Democrats inclined to sit out the midterms: Obama is not on the ballot in November, but Obama is on the ballot in November. Democrats have it in their power to keep the Senate and save the Obama presidency from the all-but-certain asterisk of impeachment. Whether they use it is a very real concern.
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How President Obama will be impeached (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2014 OP
They aren't going to impeach him YarnAddict Jun 2014 #1
No they haven't.....and yes if we lose the Senate....they most assuredly will move to impeach! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #2
We aren't going to lose the Senate. Sorry MSM lostincalifornia Jun 2014 #3
some ideogues on DU better hope not.. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #5
Well, if they do YarnAddict Jun 2014 #4
Why would they move to impeach if they control the Senate. It takes 2/3 to remove not MillennialDem Jun 2014 #19
You talking about the same House that voted 54 times to repeal Obamacare? IADEMO2004 Jun 2014 #6
Yes but they voted zero times to impeach the President Reter Jun 2014 #16
I agree, there would be a massive blowback. nt BootinUp Jun 2014 #21
Why would Republicans winning the Senate make a difference? bornskeptic Jun 2014 #7
Exactly! Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2014 #8
it only matters if the GOP can't count to 67 ShadowLiberal Jun 2014 #20
Justice Ginsburg will retire, and the GOP will get to choose her replacement, which will comfortably blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #9
The GOP won't get to pick her replacement (if she retires) Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2014 #11
We MUST make sure that does NOT happen... BlueDemKev Jun 2014 #12
And by reminding our friends, family, and neighbors to vote too. CBHagman Jun 2014 #14
Impeachment comes from the House, but it takes 2/3 of the Senate to remove him from office MiniMe Jun 2014 #10
The more they talk impeachment, the more INSANE they appear. Case closed. RBInMaine Jun 2014 #13
They are stupid Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #22
The Senate will be close to evenly divided regardless of who controls it - a long way from 67%. yellowcanine Jun 2014 #15
Capehart is right, and I think there may be some liberals and other Democrats who secretly hope it Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2014 #17
Who cares if they impeach? Removal from office takes 67 votes in the Senate MillennialDem Jun 2014 #18
 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
4. Well, if they do
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 03:30 PM
Jun 2014

it will probably work out the same way with this president. His popularity will soar, and the R's will look stupid and petty. And show themselves as the racist a-holes they are.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
19. Why would they move to impeach if they control the Senate. It takes 2/3 to remove not
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:54 PM
Jun 2014

a simple majority.

They will look like (even bigger) fools and fail epically.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
16. Yes but they voted zero times to impeach the President
Sun Jun 22, 2014, 04:48 PM
Jun 2014

I could be wrong, but I honestly don't think they will. They know it will hurt them next time there's an election.

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
7. Why would Republicans winning the Senate make a difference?
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 05:16 PM
Jun 2014

If impeached, he would be tried in the Senate no matter who controls it, and there is zero chance he would be convicted, since conviction requires 67 votes.

ShadowLiberal

(2,237 posts)
20. it only matters if the GOP can't count to 67
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 11:17 PM
Jun 2014

If 51 = 67 to the GOP then they might be dumb enough to feel 'comfortable' enough to impeach Obama and 'confident' in it.

But yeah, even worse case scenario of a total democratic wipeout in November the GOP still won't have anything close to 67 seats. They'd need to flip more senate seats than were flipped after the great depression (Democrats went from being outnumbered 2 to 1 in both houses of congress to outnumbering the GOP 4 to 1 in congress over several cycles).

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
9. Justice Ginsburg will retire, and the GOP will get to choose her replacement, which will comfortably
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 06:56 PM
Jun 2014

swing the Supreme Court to the Right for a generation.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
11. The GOP won't get to pick her replacement (if she retires)
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:07 PM
Jun 2014

They will (eventually) be forced to accept whoever President Obama nominates. I'm sure that if they get the Senate and a SCOTUS vacancy opens, they will play games with it and try to delay the inevitable but, in the end, they will get pressured into confirming (people might not pay attention to Federal Judiciary vacancies but a perpetually vacant SCOTUS seat will not go unnoticed) somebody- and it ain't going to be Scalitomasroberts clone either. Just my $0.02.

BlueDemKev

(3,003 posts)
12. We MUST make sure that does NOT happen...
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 09:08 PM
Jun 2014

...by VOTING in both the 2014 midterm elections and the 2016 presidential election.

CBHagman

(16,984 posts)
14. And by reminding our friends, family, and neighbors to vote too.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 09:27 AM
Jun 2014

Many, many people sit out the midterms. Some aren't even aware there are midterms. They only register that there are other races on when the nation is electing a president. We've got to get out the vote.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
10. Impeachment comes from the House, but it takes 2/3 of the Senate to remove him from office
Thu Jun 19, 2014, 07:04 PM
Jun 2014

There is no way they will get 67 votes in the Senate, even if the repubs have a majority.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
15. The Senate will be close to evenly divided regardless of who controls it - a long way from 67%.
Fri Jun 20, 2014, 10:13 AM
Jun 2014

And that assumes that all of the Republican senators would vote for impeachment. They didn't for Clinton, why would they for Obama on even sketchier charges?

Impeaching Clinton backfired.
Impeaching Obama would be even more of a disaster.

It won't happen.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
17. Capehart is right, and I think there may be some liberals and other Democrats who secretly hope it
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:25 PM
Jun 2014

happens, too. Hatred of this president and ODS isn't just an affliction that has befallen the political right.

 

MillennialDem

(2,367 posts)
18. Who cares if they impeach? Removal from office takes 67 votes in the Senate
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 10:52 PM
Jun 2014

something they WILL NOT HAVE even if they win big in 2014. In fact it's mathematically impossible.

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