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Elizabeth Warren to Chris Matthews: STOP IT! (Original Post) egbertowillies Jun 2014 OP
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast Jun 2014 #1
That's so funny because Chris was working for Democrats while Warren was a Republican Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #2
Warren was a Republican? Stuckinthebush Jun 2014 #3
Read Warren's wiki. merrily Jun 2014 #14
Don't be disingenuous!!! Beacool Jun 2014 #41
Yes she was, as was Cenk Uygur, Big Ed Schultz, Charlie Crist, and a host of others. I wouldn't.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #45
Well, she's not running for anything I can vote for Stuckinthebush Jul 2014 #46
What better testament is there when you can understand and explain how GOP thinking is wrong? DhhD Jul 2014 #47
You do know that Republicans used to represent a spectrum? MannyGoldstein Jun 2014 #5
Hillary Clinton also used to be a Republican before she Cleita Jun 2014 #6
At 17, not 46. Beacool Jun 2014 #42
What difference does it make when you see the light as long Cleita Jun 2014 #43
I only brought it up because people keep pointing out that Hillary Beacool Jun 2014 #44
It would be a shame to purge the party of ex-pukes. TexasProgresive Jun 2014 #7
In '64 Stephanie was barely old enough to hold a lollypop for republicans to steal out of her hand. Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2014 #12
Well she admits to it. TexasProgresive Jun 2014 #15
I listen to Steph's radio show every mourning on Sirus Channel 127 c588415 Jun 2014 #25
Excellent Gidney N Cloyd Jun 2014 #27
Franklink Roosevelt was a Republican and the reason he switched to Democrat Larkspur Jun 2014 #8
Chris Matthews also lives for the day when Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan Arkana Jun 2014 #9
Yes, he has gone on extensively and and repeatedly how great that all was /nt Dragonfli Jun 2014 #10
Way to derail the message BrotherIvan Jun 2014 #16
Frankly, I could care less... dhill926 Jun 2014 #26
Kick't immoderate Jun 2014 #4
Whoa did he really just ask Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #11
When I saw him ask that......... Stainless Jun 2014 #31
He basically goes Jamaal510 Jun 2014 #33
Mathhews is a loudmouthed slob and a fool. AlinPA Jun 2014 #13
Ditto. SoapBox Jun 2014 #21
It is time for Mathews to resign. Well beyond time... EEO Jun 2014 #17
Tweety keeps asking why Democrats don't get anything done when they're in control.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #18
And considering how long Tweety's been around Capitol Hill you'd think he'd have.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #29
I've said before the ONLY good he does is reflect the utter cluelessness of the DC Villagers.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #32
Precisely. But what's even more dangerous is that they have a microphone. Tweety could... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #34
His tag line should be, "I don't get it!".... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #36
I have to admit that I don't watch Tweety. I've caught his "act" here & there, but not a regular. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #39
Gosh, I didn't know Chris Matthews used to work for Tip O'Neill. TrollBuster9090 Jun 2014 #19
.....heh..... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #37
she is so strong heaven05 Jun 2014 #20
K&R Love Her!! NT hueymahl Jun 2014 #22
Chris Matthews needs a civics lesson corkhead Jun 2014 #23
Of course, he knows this. Why does he pretend he doesn't? CTyankee Jun 2014 #24
Because it's a talking point amongst the Villagers that Dems are weak and that crap fits. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2014 #38
Democrats need Elizabeth Warren to run for President. INdemo Jun 2014 #28
but she is not running Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2014 #30
Not only that, I'll bet she doesn't have a crystal ball like the poster. I doubt Dems "will stay Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #35
K & R davidpdx Jun 2014 #40
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
2. That's so funny because Chris was working for Democrats while Warren was a Republican
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:39 PM
Jun 2014

She was a Republican when I was demonstrating against Republicans weekly. At that time Chris Matthews was a Democrat. Warren was, to put it bluntly, in the enemy camp. She was part of the cold hearted conservative opposition.
All the pr in the world will not get her my vote without hearing some in depth discussion of her Republican past. Life is not all about markets.

Stuckinthebush

(10,845 posts)
3. Warren was a Republican?
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:44 PM
Jun 2014

I never knew that. Wow. That makes me think very differently of her.

Are we talking college Republican or as a full-fledged adult?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
14. Read Warren's wiki.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jun 2014

Hillary was not only a Republican, but connected enough at a young age to be a "Goldwater Girl" and to get tickets to attend Republican conventions.

But, lest one fan group or another descend on me, I will point out--and if I don't, someone else will--that Hillary turned Democrat at a much younger age than Warren did.

And, for the Warren group-- people can truly change political views at any age; and, as best I can tell, Warren seems to have done that.

(Obama is okay with her and so is Manny Goldstein. So, that has to say something.)

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
41. Don't be disingenuous!!!
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 01:28 AM
Jun 2014

Hillary was 17 when she was a Goldwater girl, while Warren was 46 when she chose to switch parties. That means that she probably voted for Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Bush Sr.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
45. Yes she was, as was Cenk Uygur, Big Ed Schultz, Charlie Crist, and a host of others. I wouldn't....
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 02:32 PM
Jun 2014

withhold my vote based solely on her political past, but there are other reasons I'm second thinking EW. Please understand that the invasion and occupation of Iraq was the last straw for a lot of Republican converts.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
47. What better testament is there when you can understand and explain how GOP thinking is wrong?
Tue Jul 1, 2014, 08:51 AM
Jul 2014

That testament gives great credibility to the progressive cause. Keep in mind that she see that grassroots support across America is the progressive movement that is lacking.

Battleground Texas is such a cause.

 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
5. You do know that Republicans used to represent a spectrum?
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jun 2014

I'm sure there were (and still are) Republicans who were overall nicer human beings than some Democrats.

For example, Wall Street is mostly "Democratic".

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
6. Hillary Clinton also used to be a Republican before she
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:48 PM
Jun 2014

hooked up with Bill Clinton. I think she was even a Goldwater girl or was heavily into the campaign of one of those Repubs back then. Will she not get your vote either should she be THE Democratic presidential candidate?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
43. What difference does it make when you see the light as long
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 12:44 PM
Jun 2014

as you see it? Many have switched parties in middle age. My Republican, house wife mother did, when she found herself a widow at the age of 45 and cut off from my dad's income. Getting a job at her age and becoming a member of the female working class was a big epiphany for her as it probably was to a college age Hillary, like it was to me at college aged and to a middle aged Elizabeth Warren.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
44. I only brought it up because people keep pointing out that Hillary
Wed Jun 25, 2014, 12:48 PM
Jun 2014

was a Goldwater girl. She was a teenager at the time, Warren was a middle aged woman.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
7. It would be a shame to purge the party of ex-pukes.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:08 PM
Jun 2014

Ed Schultz was a re'puke and Stephanie Miller was a Goldwater girl. If someone can see the error of their thinking why should they bother to become a Dem when they will never be trusted. For that matter why should you be trusted? I'm sure that you have changed your outlook in some way over your lifetime. I have. I have changed in my view of capital punishment, marriage equality among other things.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,835 posts)
12. In '64 Stephanie was barely old enough to hold a lollypop for republicans to steal out of her hand.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:54 PM
Jun 2014

Probably not a real Goldwater Girl even though her dad was his running mate.

(Just stickin' up for Mama. Your larger point is well taken.)

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
15. Well she admits to it.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:36 PM
Jun 2014

Maybe it was the candy that drew her in as in, "Candy bar little girl, step into my car and we will have fun."

Bad, bad, TexasProgresive. Behave yourself.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
8. Franklink Roosevelt was a Republican and the reason he switched to Democrat
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:09 PM
Jun 2014

was because he did not want to face the children, grandchildren and nephews off Teddy Roosevelt in primaries.

The Long Island Democratic Party was thrilled to have FDR because he could bankroll his own campaigns with little to no financial help from the local Democratic Party.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
9. Chris Matthews also lives for the day when Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:24 PM
Jun 2014

sat in a room and sold out the middle class.

He has much less credibility than Warren does.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
16. Way to derail the message
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jun 2014

Liberals, a group in which I include myself, have been BEGGING for someone to stand up and fight for these ideals. She just did that. And that makes me stand up and cheer. If you don't agree with her statements, then perhaps you could comment on those.

dhill926

(16,339 posts)
26. Frankly, I could care less...
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:08 PM
Jun 2014

About her Repub past. What is she NOW? What are her positions NOW? And I think we know that.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
11. Whoa did he really just ask
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 03:53 PM
Jun 2014

why more isn't being done in D.C. after the D's controlling the WH and the Senate? This is some sort of ignorance I'd expect to hear online. Hey Chris, just look at your red friends in the House, and you'll see why more isn't being done. Unless your party controls all 3 areas, there isn't much that you can do to advance your agenda. That's basic civics.
Seriously, that was a Homer question on his part. As a political pundit, he should know all about how our government runs and about the checks-and-balances system. EW was 100% correct when she called on more Americans to participate in the process, and to recognize the stark contrasts between the Democratic agenda and the Republican agenda.

Stainless

(718 posts)
31. When I saw him ask that.........
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:41 AM
Jun 2014

I was dumbfounded. I was only watching because Elizabeth Warren was on his show. MSNBC has become totally bought and paid for by corporate interests and most of their pundits are shills. Chris Matthews should resign in disgrace. He's a bully who does not deserve any respect whatsoever. What a wasted career he's had.

Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
33. He basically goes
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 03:59 AM
Jun 2014

whichever way the political winds blow. At one point, you hear him talk up the D's and Obama. The next moment, it's all doom and gloom, or "the Republicans are gonna' win big in November", or "both parties blah blah blah..." And if I'm correct, he was real supportive of Bush ll before O became president.
Because of all this, everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
18. Tweety keeps asking why Democrats don't get anything done when they're in control....
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:51 PM
Jun 2014

He would LOVE to live under a King.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
29. And considering how long Tweety's been around Capitol Hill you'd think he'd have....
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:25 AM
Jun 2014

taken a Civics class or two. I'm amazed at his ability to come off as clueless as he does.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
32. I've said before the ONLY good he does is reflect the utter cluelessness of the DC Villagers....
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 02:26 AM
Jun 2014

The scary thing is that means all of the DC Villagers were fainting like teenagers at a Beatles concert at the sight of Dubya doing that tailhook landing. Total suckers for a SHOW.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
34. Precisely. But what's even more dangerous is that they have a microphone. Tweety could...
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:30 PM
Jun 2014

use his platform to educate, instead he chooses to pontificate and act the fool. Like I said, if anyone should know how government works, it's Tweety. He acts as if his spittle laced tirades are a substitute for actual governance.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
36. His tag line should be, "I don't get it!"....
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:42 PM
Jun 2014

You can tell Joan Walsh is growing tired of explaining it to him.

What's pathetic is he doesn't even see the irony that he constantly interrupts and then ends his show with a segment called, "Let Me Finish."

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
39. I have to admit that I don't watch Tweety. I've caught his "act" here & there, but not a regular.
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 01:30 PM
Jun 2014

And poor Joan shouldn't have to explain it to him.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
19. Gosh, I didn't know Chris Matthews used to work for Tip O'Neill.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 04:52 PM
Jun 2014

I guess it's been all of five minutes since the last time he mentioned it.

corkhead

(6,119 posts)
23. Chris Matthews needs a civics lesson
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 05:48 PM
Jun 2014

It takes 60 votes to pass anything in the Senate whenever there is a Democratic "majority". Doesn't he listen to NPR? Koch-ee Boggs reminds me of that fact nearly every Monday morning.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
24. Of course, he knows this. Why does he pretend he doesn't?
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 06:40 PM
Jun 2014

I have no patience with this kind of stupid...

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
28. Democrats need Elizabeth Warren to run for President.
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:49 PM
Jun 2014

With Hillary running we would get another Republican lite and Democratic voters would stay home on election day.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,234 posts)
35. Not only that, I'll bet she doesn't have a crystal ball like the poster. I doubt Dems "will stay
Tue Jun 24, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jun 2014

home" because we know that Repukes in control of every branch of government spells doom for us & the planet.

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