the rank and file gop members with little or no money need to experience their alleged utopia

no roads, no cops, no firemen, no govt, no food stamps, no unemployment, no courts to sue companies killing you

they need to experience this so they can grow up

...which was passed by the House, and if the Repubs take over the Senate, will likely be passed there, too, unless enough non-corporate Dems filibuster.

Then the last line of defense will be the president. It won't pass with Obama in there, and may not pass with Clinton II, but Christie? Or Bush III? God help us...

sooner or later the idiots will all wake up, probably not until they are about to die

and then change will happen

Water is not free, unless you go down to the river with a bucket.

Someone has to pay the guys who filter and purify it, who run the pumps to get it out into the pipes to people's homes, who repair the pipes, who read the meters, and who operate the sewage treatment end of things. Or do you expect them to donate their time? Do you think water hogs like water parks should get a free ride, too?

Wake up, indeed...! I'll bet if you had a job at the water department you'd be singing a very different tune.



Oh, and here's a link for you, since you're spending all your time whining about your water bill instead of finding out how to get some help paying it: http://www.needhelppayingbills.com/html/detroit_water_bill_assistance.html

The residents refused to pass a bond measure (paid by slightly increased property taxes) to fund the sheriff's department. So they let out of jail all but the most violent offenders and they told rural people that they will have to wait for police help for 1-2 hours if they have a problem. And that's only on Monday - Friday during regular work hours. There was a shooting reported in a motel in the area recently, but the EMTs could not go into the room to check on the victim (alleged suicide) because it was a potential crime scene and they were not permitted to enter until the police had cleared the area. And the police could not get there for 1.5 hours. The person died, but could she have been saved by the EMTs? Nobody knows.

We must GOTV in November. If the Senate goes red, we're all screwed.

the Black vote staying home ... VA and MS show the Black voter is engaged and acting strategically.

I, also, don't see the GLBTQ votes sitting 2014 out, either ... too much is moving in their favor, despite the homophobic nonsense.

Nor, do I expect the woman vote to stay home, because of the gop's continuing attack on, when they are not just ignoring, women.

My only open question is the youth vote ... they seem to be buying into the Democrat=Republican narrative, despite Congress' (Warren's) youth initiatives and this administration's executive orders, when the gop blocked Warren's legislation.

Women/Blacks/Young came out in NOVA (DC metro) the tidewater region. This is what put McAulliffe over the top.

I wasn't aware of the youth engagement in VA. I'm just read where a significant segment of the Black MS cross-over voters were the youth.

I'm getting happier!

Now had the young come out as they did in 2008/12, McAuliffe would have won a little over 50%.

They were invisible to media, they weren't supposed to get to vote with all the hurdles, and yet they did.

Rand Paul and those like him are just dandy

sadly mistaken they are

I remind everyone here, EVERY white, non liberal I know, thinks that while Wall Street and corps may be problems, the real problem is the Black poor people sitting home all day watching tv, drinking expensive energy drinks, cashing food stamps and unemployment etc


They ALL believe this and NOTHING is gonna change them, what will change them is when they are about to be homeless, then and only then will we see these fucking idiots grow up

but I suspect must of those really haven't looked beneath the surface of him, his father or what an unworkable fantasy libertarianism is.

And, sadly, in the binary, two-party system that we have ... liberals/progressive do none of us any favors, with the Democrat = republican narrative.

My age group is a little older - the 40ish types.

And, they have absolutely no time for gay bashing and some of the other shit republicans say and do.

BUT, they absolutely buy, hook, line and sinker, the big spending liberal and also the PC thing being a democratic thing.

The republicans hit ALL the negative tendencies in people, and while there are the totally insane 25 percent who buy it all, they manage to get another 25% give or take hitting on other things ...

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too late to change it now, particularly if Obama sends troop or even fires bombs or drones into Iraq. Once they take over, they'll figure out how to hold it.

WilliamPitt's essay on voter turnout is well worth re-reading:

http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/19833-william-rivers-pitt-decisions-are-made-by-those-who-show-up

We need to encourage DUers who are physically able to do so to start registering Democrats to vote. I don't think any of us will sit this one out, but we need to make sure no Democrats sit it out.

money so they could report the largest profits in history, while being protected from prosecution.

Lots of new imagining going on...

Democrats. Oregon had the best midterm turnout since the 80's at least. So how is it that vast regions of the country were not 'sitting it out' over the things you list as reasons? Why did Oregonians vote heavily if the reasons for no shows were large national issues?
I think it had more to do with the candidates who lost being candidates who lost. Many of them were mealy mouthed moderates and conservative Democrats.
Bad product does not move. This is not really complicated. If people don't want to vote for a candidate, they won't do it. The more effort it takes to cast the vote, the more they need to like the candidate.

Lots of good people didn't get elected, too ...

They managed to gin up enough ridiculous hysteria over the ACA that they got their best turnout and swung the mushy middle type voters to them ...

I lived through them too and I think it may be worse this time around unless the dems run on the truth. Which given the complications or our political reality doesn't appear that it might actually work - BUT they never bother to actually try it so they don't fucking know!

Dems please run ON Obamacare and ON Republicans blockading the president's initiatives and ON the Economy. Don't be fucking fools and try to hide just because you are afraid of the Republican name calling. They will do it anyway so don't fucking hide. Tell the fucking truth to the electorate.

Sorry for the "fucking" spliced in every other word but I feel strongly about this...

and that would prevent me from staying home if nothing else did.

They don't just want to end abortion. They want to put an end to birth control and take away any rights they can from women. We have fought this battle so many times. I'm getting older now too. I remember how hard women worked in the 70s to take control over their reproductive health and be able to advance in the workforce.

We are headed for American Talibanland if we let conservatives take over the senate as well as the house - and it will be absolutely devastating for women.

Over healthcare. There is much resistance to learning lessons.

Not to say there aren't any right wing Republican Af. American voters, but come on. If we are going to have change and kick these crazies out the House and the Senate .. we will need minority voters to get to the polls. Don't count on the white 20-30 somethings to bring things around.

I can't imagine Cochran suddenly becoming a moderate in order to hold onto his new "coalition"

And here we are, four years after the 2010 election.

Letting the GOP gain ground in '14 is flirting with disaster in '16.

leadership in stark contrast to neo-con/libertarian/tea-party billionaires, the base will be motivated

Problem is that the subtleties that Rock Washington are lost on the average American, who is left of center (according to polling data).

we survived 1994. The world did not end. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse did not descend upon us. The ten plagues did not consume us. The Great Flood did not destroy us.

Just chill. This country is a lot tougher than a bunch of silly Republicans. We have our ups and downs. We endure.

Fox News spouts the crap and all the rest of the media repeats it.
Conservative shows repeat it to convince people and the liberal shows repeat it as examples of how stupid conservative ideas are.
The net effect is that all we hear is conservative blather repeated ad nauseum.

Where is the a Democratic blather? All I hear from the left is refuting of the the right. I hear very little about what they will do for the country. I just hear how they will prevent the right from achieving their destructive goals.

It's no wonder Dems stay home. What do the Democrats offer that get them excited? Nothing.
All they have is their version of the GOP scare tactics and it's not working.

Until Dems can spend more time talking about what they will do instead of what they will prevent nothing will change.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease and both the left and the right wheels are squeaking to the right.

Republicans are running free screaming whatever bullshit they want unabashed.

Democrats are in holes, trying to fend for themselves.

forever, you know. If DEMs lose the Senate in this November's elections, a Ginsburg replacement will be another rightwinger, and tilt the High Court "permanent Right" for at least a generation.

Democratic leadership: Please give me a candidate to vote for.

I live and work in the Lehigh Valley of Pennsylvania. In November, I will be voting for Tom Wolf, as well as any other Democrats running for whatever. Our two Senators are not up for election in 2014. My Congressman is Republican, Charlie Dent. This year, he will be running unopposed by any Democratic opponents. Listening to and reading various progressive media, I'm told over and over that in order to take back the House and retain the Senate, it's up to Democratic voters to vote in November. I'd love to vote for any Democratic candidate against Charlie Dent, but the Democratic Party can't come up with a single candidate to run against Dent. The Party leadership is letting down thousands of Democratic voters, not the other way around. Check in if you're aware of any other races nationwide featuring unopposed Republicans.

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... can keep me from voting.

In your discussion you mentioned "In 1994, Clinton had turned the corner on economy".

All this debt & economic trouble ramped up to where we were in 2008, in only 14 years!?

Then of course the massive number of foreclosures started and the banks grabbed the bail-out billions that was all set-up for them to grab- pre-2008.

meant that debt was being reduced and was coming down so much that economist could begin to wonder if elimination of the debt would have downsides and what would be the right balance.

That said, too many of Clinton economic policies greatly contributed to where we are now with his bad trade deals, deregulation, tearing down the safety nets, increased friendliness toward and capture of government of the corporation, and of course giving the criminals of the Reagan/Bush cabal a pass freeing them to rear their heads without a moments pause of contrition or having to bring up new folks in a tougher environment.

Right up until election eve, Newt was boasting about the overwhelming "victory" he was going to hand his party. I knew better. I was reading the newspaper. They kept posting the same photo of Bill, standing at a podium, his head bowed and tilted to one side, the presidential seal behind his head like a halo. He looked just like Jesus on the Cross. Meaning that the nation's editors---no matter what they wrote--all secretly thought that Clinton was a martyr. And folks at home saw him as a martyr. And every time Starr announced that he was about to release a new bit of porn the stock market would dive. And when the porn was released and Clinton's public approval went up rather than down the stock market would rebound. Meaning that Wall Street loved Clinton, too. And if the public loved Clinton and Wall Street loved Clinton, then that left Newt very few friends---

Which meant that 1998's election was in the bag, and not for the GOP.

The House has not learned its lesson. Not at all. If they keep pissing off Obama's base, Obama's base is going to turn out this fall in record numbers to put its foot up the GOP's ass. So, my advice to all concerned Democrats, every time a Repuke says something really nasty that he or she should not have ought to have said--make sure that everyone in the country hears about it. Give it to kind of wall to wall airplay that the Monica hearings had. Even if Obama's name is not on the ballot, we can make this fall's election a referendum on Obama, the same way that 1998 was a referendum on Clinton.

The American electorate is stubborn. When it votes for a president, it does not like to see a handful of Supreme Court Justices or a handful of House Republicans try to overturn that vote. It pisses them off. A pisses off electorate---especially a pissed off Democratic electorate---will vote.

Loved that line so I kept it.

A lot of truth in it. And, as KansasObama wrote; You ain't seen nothin' yet.