2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWTF. Clinton vs Gore?
News media is going ape sh*t over this. Thinking Gore can beat Hilliary? Are they serious? And WTF happened to Biden? They're just throwing his ass under the bus.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/could-al-gore-challenge-hillary-in-2016-mark-halperin-thinks-so/
Dawgs
(14,755 posts)only if Nader doesn't run.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 4, 2014, 06:33 PM - Edit history (1)
BootinUp
(47,165 posts)Nothing to see here.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Halperin is a useless nobody. Why all the hype?
winter is coming
(11,785 posts)Seriously, has Gore even hinted he'd be interested in running?
littlemissmartypants
(22,693 posts)Beat The Rock. But I would not want to see him cry.
BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)Thanks for that!
wyldwolf
(43,867 posts)I mean, YOU can challenge her provided you meet the qualifications to be President.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)After the debacle in 2000 he moved on. Can't blame him one bit. With his divorce from Tipper it seems even more unlikely. It's just been too long.
Don't get me wrong, I would vote for him in heartbeat.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)They are legally separated (at least the last I heard).
Sam
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I think they would have to come to a decision one way or another if he did run. Still it is so unlikely he'd run.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)He was a confirmed bachelor, and he had his niece serve by his side at official functions. I think most of us think a First Lady is necessary because in our lifetimes, we have always had one. But it really isn't. It is nice though, isn't it, especially when it is someone like our current First Lady.
Sam
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)I just think the two would have to choose either to reconcile or make the separation permanent. As I said, I think it is a moot point as he isn't going to get back into politics again.
BTW in Korea we have a female president who never married, a first here. Too bad she is a conservative.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)I expect next week he's going to speculate JFK has been cloned and is considering running in 2016. I'd put Gore's chances at about the same as Nate Silver's (which is 538 to 1, according to one betting site that apparently has a sense of humor).
Samantha
(9,314 posts)He is farther to the left than she is, she voted to give Bush* authorization to go into Iraq while Gore stepped out and spoke against it, and no one is better qualified than Gore to step into the White House and combat one of our most serious problems -- climate change. I would vote for him on that latter point alone over anyone else.
I am not saying Hillary is a bad candidate, I am saying Gore is much more attractive. He has totally divorced himself from the DLC, today referred to as Third Way. That specific term came from Bill Clinton's particular brand of politics while in the Oval Office, which reflected his ability to compromise with Republicans. In so doing, he did some things which I personally found objectionable, such as cutting welfare.
I do like both Bill and Hillary Clinton, and I do recognize they both have many positive achievements and attributes. I just don't think either can measure up against Gore. During the time he served in DC, it was often said one could count on one hand the number of honest politicians serving -- and one of those was Al Gore. It was his reputation for personal integrity that prompted Bill Clinton to ask him to run with him in 1992. Clinton knew his own reputation was a little fuzzy, shall we say, and he thought Gore on the same ticket would offset any misgivings. Many here in DC thought the order on that ticket should have been reversed.
Sam
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)but he would be a viable candidate.
I mostly agree with your assessment of him and if given a choice would prefer him to Hill.
As with others ...
Man, it has been so long, hard to see it happening.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)over anyone else is the devastation we see happening due to climate change -- the very devastation he warned us about for years. I do not think in this one extremely important arena anyone could touch him politically if he chooses to run. And the other important thing is this: he doesn't owe anyone anything. He is independently wealthy and does not need anyone's support.
I just have a feeling this is absolutely the right moment for Gore to re-emerge on the political scene.
But I do have to concede your point, it is hard to see it happening, at least without a number of people stepping ou publicly and asking him to run.
Sam
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)I would agree on your point about Climate Change, but this is no a normal world.
This is the United State of America, where republicans scream bloody murder and this country eagerly gobbles up their bullshit.
Once they ramp up their bullshit, they will turn the Climate Change thing around just as they have managed to make desperately needed health care reform (that is a LOT closer to what THEY have historically suggested than what would make sense) into the worst thing to happen to this country in its history.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)There has just been too many incidents where a number of communities have tremendously suffered and all of it has been featured in the news. I do believe people are wising up to the lying.
I live in College Park, MD where historically the temperature has been tolerable. One night I went to sleep in College Park, MD but woke up to what feels like New Orleans. The damaging storms and flooding has been horrendous, and it is is just getting started. I just spent $10,000 I did not have to repair my home here. So I am really speaking out because I know this only the beginning. Many people in this area suffered much more damage than I have.
And that is exactly why I have gone back to fixating on Al Gore.
98 percent of scientists agree to what has been published about our climate warming -- the 2 percent who disagree are paid off by Big Oil and other special interests who do not want to see their businesses damaged.
So I guess I will end by saying I am starting to gain a little confidence in the waking up of the American people.
Regards,
Sam
Gloria in NM
(9 posts)I have admired Al Gore, saw him after the 2000 debacle when he came into town to help us out here in NM...the crowd was huge and just in love with him back then...I got his autograph and was in tears from having the old wounds re-opened..
Since then, though, his investing life would be under scrutiny, his separation from Tipper under less than seemly circumstances,
his age and the change of appearance wouldn't really be conducive to being representative of "Change"...if he had run again after Bush, I would have laid down on railroad tracks for him, but he has moved in different business circles that are not that appealing to me.
Current TV evolved into something interesting, but he sold out of that. He hasn't really made a point of being a regular commentator on politics for years...
I don't Gore would fit the present times. Democrats need a hell-raiser now....To tell you the truth, Howard Dean on TV is still a great commentator, and Chris Van Holland always does a good job. They get to the point. Dean can be pretty direct and passionate, Van Holland is just plain good! Neither are quite hell raisers, but I'd take either one of them at this point!
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,123 posts)Don't think he will even consider it.