Stop voting for weak appeasers and DINOs. They're half the reason we're in this mess.

I do have a big problem with week kneed, appeasing whimsy ass Demarcates who cave to Republican pressure and do not back our president

The only dems who cave to republican pressure are the dinos like our president. Otoh, the ones who oppose him are the real dems who are against endless war, union busting, school privatization, fracking, TPP, drone murder, etc.

Do you really believe everyone should support him on TPP???

For example while I would like a single payer health care Obama Care is way better than what we had, but too many Democrats are afraid to support it out of fear.

to defend their beliefs and to make liberal laws

We can and do draw our lines in the sand.

the last six years of Reid and Pelosi prove that.

A disappointment in many ways. Harry pipes up occasionally. But they all look old and tired too often.

But more, the OP neglects to describe the inevitable result of his "inflexible/unwilling to compromise" strategy in real life (of governing) ... Anarchy, as government breaks down further, since there is no way to find the common, or acceptable, ground upon which to govern.

It sounds good and makes for the appearance of toughness (a trait that has bled into the liberal psyche); but to what end?

The hard stand against the IWar? Against tax cuts for the wealthy? Saving Social Security? Helping our vets?

What hard stands that liberals have taken don't you approve of?

The republicans have taken over by holding their ground on everything. 1sbm's post is completely absurd. It's the end result of worshipping someone who is supposed to work for you.

And I won't argue. When we get down to little left to defend we have to draw the line and tell the bastards to fuck off. I am inflexible on a lot of things, like destroying SS and/or Medicare. Sorry, no compromise.

There is no common ground with lying, criminal, war monger torturers.

N... N... No! No! No! Ah, it feels good.

put his theory to test is his marriage and get back to us.

We can all meet up at the local singles bar ... then, we can watch him apply that to his establishing other relationships.

Also, you've had your way for twenty years and the shit is not really working for most of us and seems to be on a rather intolerable trajectory with ever less ability to change course.

No, appeasement and assimilation will not carry the day better chaos than cruel and wicked order based on soulless extraction.

Your analogy is cogent

I've NOT had my way ... ever, in this society.

But that said ... we have two choices in governance in this/our form of government ... work together or get nothing done.

We can pretend that the OP's theory is a viable political strategy; but in the real world, it leads to none governance ... and that vacuum benefits only the 1%.

It's really quite pathetic.

Yeah, let's just turn "common liberal notions of what’s right and what’s wrong upside down". Yeah, that's the ticket.

Throw the baby out with the bath water.

Clever.

No! I am a liberal. I know how to say no.

they even made a run at that. The few things we have gained didn't come from being flexible.

A whole bunch.

It shouldn't even be a matter of opinion. It is an entirely black and white issue. It was an impeachable offense.

If Republicans are so awful, stop telling us that we need to do more things they want.

If Republicans aren't that awful, stop pestering all of us about how important elections are.

We can't run on a platform that amounts to "That party is full of awful people that want to destroy the world and everything in it." then turn around and do whatever they want us to do so we look reasonable. It doesn't make us look reasonable, it makes us look weak and stupid.

... move further right, we need to move half-way again. How is standing up for traditional Democratic Party principles ever going to inspire voters? Much better that we abandon them in search of the mythical "moderate Republican".

is that the "middle" subscribes to this mindless "they are all the same" thing even when the republicans are absolute, 100 percent jackasses and dems (the pols and establishment) are cowering in a corner afraid of their own shadows.

They get the stink of being intransient even when they aren't.

I keep noting this, our focus is on just how extraordinarily horrible Rs are, but just the same, Democrats are all but worthless right now.

We have a Democratic President and because Rs scream like Banshees, Ds have left him out there all alone for all but a few moments of his entire tenure.

the real differences in the parties and efforts to reduce them in actuality have borne the fruit of blowback.

I don't get the anger and frustration that folks are confused when that was the original intent. Did we think only the right leaning would be deceived? I don't get it.

it is about being scared, frankly. Scared of the labels, scared of the anger.

ACA is an example. Democrats should have OWNED it, there was no other play. Fight for it and take a stand on it. Instead, they barely managed to get it passed then immediately cowered in a corner while republicans threw every bit of shit they could grab against the wall about it and while the results have been fairly decent and most everyone who HAS it likes it, the entire country thinks it is the worst thing ever.