2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is Obama's rating so low?
When a president can't get anything done, he usually has a low rating. HOWEVER, in Obama's case, he can't get anything done with a party of NO in charge of the house. I can understand why Congress's rating is low, but should Obama's be low just because he has to contend with the party of NO?
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)24/7 FOX and GOP bashing him takes it's toll.
clydefrand
(4,325 posts)just how stupid so many people are in the country. Will they EVER learn?
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)If my parents are any kind of example. They love their fox news. And Limbaugh, etc. Sadly.
narnian60
(3,510 posts)looks to Fox News as her friend and companion. It makes her feel like a part of something, I guess. She doesn't have it on nonstop, but enough to make me think this. She knows I hate the network, but whenever I go to pick her up for the doctor it's on when I come in the door. Really sets the mood nicely for our time together.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)turned highly ignorant by Fox News. Fox News is brainwashing this country, an extraordinary propaganda machine. They should be closed down and assets sold as a hostile un-American entity. This is NOT about free speech ... Fox News has crossed the line. Yes, I certainly believe in free speech, but how far does one let Fox News go ... for one example, look at what Goebbels did in Germany. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Goebbels
klyon
(1,697 posts)he didn't change things as he promised
FarPoint
(12,417 posts)Foxx noise is everywhere! Even at the new gas pumps...foxx news crap is played...foxx at hospitals, doctors offices, grocery store cafe, they control local am radio ....They are covert terrorist? Spew hate...never the facts. One mission...paint President Obama as evil and a failure.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)free pass under the guise of free speech. See #7. ... and trying to buy up more media outlets. Damn, the US is sooo stupid at times. This is not free speech, but rather an attempt to take down the US.
FarPoint
(12,417 posts)Not many see this black fog which is slowly blanketing the country. This is a terrorist threat in my opinion.
BlueJazz
(25,348 posts)...facts of the past 15-16 years SO wrong.
Bush was a stronger leader
Economy was better before Obama
Obama's health care=Bad
Stock market has gone down
Obama has not raised the minimum wage (WHAT!)
And the best one...9/11 happened with Obama..really!
abelenkpe
(9,933 posts)Republican obstruction. Them toss in disillusioned liberals who hoped the president would be more like FDR. Also, ratings? Based on what? Polls? Polls only illustrate what retired people believe.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)as you of course know, serve as another form of propaganda. ... yep, as you say, take the poll sample from whatever group one targets for the desired results, be it retired people, millennials, racial divides, etc., etc. and by geographical region of the country ...
Skittles
(153,170 posts)the people who hate him hate him and the non-idolizing people who like him think he can do better
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Obama's kinda the person on top of the government, and things have not gotten appreciably better during his presidency.
People get mad when things suck. Thoughtful people can argue about what percentage of the suck is due to Obama, but for most people it's the guy in charge who's responsible.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)and it doesn't help (hurt) that there are plenty that claim to be Democrats, fall all over themselves to say, at every opportunity, that President Obama = Democrat = Republican.
(See post #13 ... None of which a President has the power to affect, other than to give a speech.)
on point
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Willing to compromise with right wing wackos instead of leading change to raise taxes on wealthy, reduce military spending, kill the pipeline, stop raids on social security and other benefits
In short he has failed to offer leadership of change and is just another DLC sell out
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)The absolutely relentless, single minded and vicious attacks by the right from even before he got elected, coupled with the corporate media totally giving up on being unbiased and gleefully advancing whatever bullshit the right comes up with coupled with the ever growing direct connect between media and people in this country coupled with the people of this country being too complacent to not have the common sense to disregard the obvious bullshit said about this president.
Also, the post ahead of this one, unlike Republicans, Democrats being far too prone to throw a good man under the bus (and I agree with SOME of the points).
Rolo
(27 posts)Republicans believe the rhetoric that Obama is a dictator & unwilling to compromise. Dems complain he compromises too much.
Obama has done a lot of great things (i.e cutting the deficit in half), but the Dem Party has never been the party to brag. (the GOP takes credit for things they didn't even do lol)
The Dem Party needs to change their playbook & go on the offensive instead of always defending their decisions.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)It might have to do with some of the things that he has gotten done.
Like assasinating an American citizen without due process of law. Like killing wedding parties with Hellfire missiles fired form drones. Like killing women and children in a dozen countries with those missiles and drones. Like declaring war on Libya and turning it in to a hellish chaotic failed state. Like keeping our troops in Afghanistan for six more hellish, futile, wasted years with nonsensical explanations like "we are denying them space in which to plan their attacks." Like extending the Bush tax cuts for the rich for two more years to assure his reelection.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)Republicans wouldn't do any of that? or Hillary
The stupidacy of the public may assure we have a extreme far right government In this country controled by Koch Brothers and Tea
Party that will make Bush look like a moderate.
JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)I didn't say the Republicans wouldn't do it. Are you suggesting that the fear that a future Republicans president might do it means that we should like President Obama for doing it now? Note, I'm not asking if we should merely excuse him for doing it and vote Democrat, but that we should give him a high popularuty for doing those things, because that's what the question was. "Why is he unpopular?" It wasn't about future governance, it was about what exists now.
If you think I'm going to say "Oh yes, I just love a president who does that" merely because he had a "D" after his name you have another think coming.
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)who are aware of the things you mentioned.
(They're the ones who'll be blamed when the Democrats lose.)
TheKentuckian
(25,029 posts)Consider where most people see their lot in life now and add the feeling it is only going down hill and there is little mystery.
world wide wally
(21,749 posts)of his base quite often and the fact that Democratic pols just won't circle the wagons and fight back like they need to.
Cal33
(7,018 posts)November, do you think Dems. might even try to outlaw deliberate lying by the news media?
Fat chance!
world wide wally
(21,749 posts)Republican
Cal33
(7,018 posts)many Dems. simply don't see what a great opportunity impeachment would be to get millions of
Americans (especially Republicans) informed about what the Republican Party is really about:
It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference whether Bush, Cheney & Co. should be found guilty
or not guilty. It's the great publicity their crimes will finally be getting during the impeachment
hearings process. Main Stream Media will no longer be able to hide them any longer.
Millions of those who vote Republican will be shocked to learn the truth for the first time. And
enough of them would quit the Republican Party to make a big difference during elections, especially
if the Democrats would care enough to hammer the truth home during those times.
Rstrstx
(1,399 posts)They'd just get everything vetoed if they did, and they probably realize full well that the Senate will probably flip back if 2016 and realize what a complete F-up it would be not to be able to fall back on the filibuster. If anything they might reinstate the filibuster for judicial nominees knowing what could lie ahead in 2016.
apnu
(8,758 posts)There' that's the short form.
But its not in Obama's nature to be an aggressive leader. So we'll never see him lead like that.
We are a aggressive, arrogant, and bellicose people, so it is natural for us to desire aggressive, arrogant, and bellicose leaders. And when our leaders aren't acting like cowboys, their poll numbers go to crap.
Says more about the state of our culture than it does about our politics. And that's pretty sad.
Turbineguy
(37,359 posts)110% of Americans hate him.
But then again, the poll may have been taken among Putin's Staff.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)who will rate Obama below Satan no matter what.
And you've got another 15% who rate Obama low because he is not far enough to the left.
Result: low approval rating.
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)I visited them last month. Joe the husband is a retired Marine retired teacher principal. He lives off two pensions and his wife's salary as a nurse. They both hate Obama. I can't tell you why other than it is the in way to be in Dayton Ohio I guess. Joe opens the conversation with, "Obamacare really screwed me up". I got up and walked out of the room. This guy has excellent health care. Lives in a very nice house. Owns lot's of material things but is anti immigrant and buys the whole right wing ideology idea. He really has no big issues to complain about yet Obama is fucking him over some way.
kairos12
(12,863 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)And nobody likes a loser.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)he doesn't tout his accomplishments in health care and the economy more than a day. He hardly has a nationally telecast full fledged press conference.
tgards79
(1,415 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts).... despite a soaring stock market that helps mostly the rich and could drop by half literally any given week, and despite the claims of "slow steady growth", people are wising up to the FACT that the economy is not really recovering. RECOVERY means returning to the status of the past. That is not happening. Things are getting a tiny bit better, but real people in the real world have to settle for lower paying jobs or no job at all, see their friends and relatives in the same boat to the extent that the media message is starting to sound like the lie it is.
You could say "well maybe so, but how is that Obama's fault"? And I wouldn't totally disagree with you. But the FACT is that when times (economic) are bad the president and the party in power get punished in the popularity polls and at the election polls. That is as American as apple pie and it's not going away.