2016 Postmortem

Eugene

(61,900 posts) Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:08 PM Nov 2014

Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

Source: Reuters

Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration

WASHINGTON Sun Nov 16, 2014 1:37pm EST

(Reuters) - One Republican leader on Sunday held open the possibility that his party could move to shut down the government in an attempt to stop President Barack Obama from taking executive action on immigration policy.

A vocal group of conservatives in the House of Representatives is pressing to use government funding as leverage to prevent any White House moves that would allow millions of undocumented immigrants to stay and work in the United States.

Several Republicans, including some in leadership, have said they were trying to find alternatives that would stop short of directly threatening a government shutdown, and Republican lawmakers on Sunday talk shows acknowledged that the shutdown threat was a less than ideal approach.

"It doesn't solve the problem. But look, we're having those discussions... We're going to continue to meet about this. I know the House leaders are talking about, the Senate leaders are talking about it," said South Dakota Republican John Thune, who chairs the Senate Republican Conference, on "Fox News Sunday".

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Republicans weigh government shutdown to stop Obama on immigration (Original Post) Eugene Nov 2014 OP

S.O.S. LiberalEsto Nov 2014 #1

Yes and elleng Nov 2014 #5

Your foot is right there! Take the shot! nt Xipe Totec Nov 2014 #2

My gawd, is this the best they can come up with? misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #3

Would be good if their paychecks were also on hold elleng Nov 2014 #6

yes. There should be a dire consequence for that decision. misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #7

GOP is so screwed. nt tridim Nov 2014 #4

I do hope you are correct about that. But they are soon to be a majority. misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #9

This will do two things with one stupid move. Wellstone ruled Nov 2014 #8

It did blow up in Newt's face. His plan for American citizens was straight out of a death camp bible misterhighwasted Nov 2014 #10

The closer a government shutdown is to an election customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #11

Yeah Cosmocat Nov 2014 #15

Count on it customerserviceguy Nov 2014 #16

How about the House debating the passed Senate bill? How will they justify damaging America with a Fred Sanders Nov 2014 #12

Do in the gov't like Norquist said they want to do. They got theirs already. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #13

I knew they were going to do this shit. I hope they do! Liberal_Stalwart71 Nov 2014 #14

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)

1. S.O.S.

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:19 PM

Nov 2014

Same old shit.

Government shutdowns that squander billions of dollars
Long, pointless investigations that squander billions
Impeachment efforts that squander billions.

There's nothing like "cutting down on government waste" the G.O.P. way.

elleng

(130,973 posts)

5. Yes and

Reply to LiberalEsto (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:42 PM

Nov 2014

maybe it makes immigration ENFORCEMENT impossible too! Waddya think, LibEst???

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)

2. Your foot is right there! Take the shot! nt

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:20 PM

Nov 2014

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)

3. My gawd, is this the best they can come up with?

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:21 PM

Nov 2014

They take the function of the US gov't so lightly that completely stopping it, putting everything & everyone else our gov't functions for aside, without a thought, because they either just refuse or have zero will or intellect to negotiate nor compromise, is beyond appalling

elleng

(130,973 posts)

6. Would be good if their paychecks were also on hold

Reply to misterhighwasted (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:43 PM

Nov 2014

(but not those of 'regular' civil service employees and retirees.)

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)

7. yes. There should be a dire consequence for that decision.

Reply to elleng (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:50 PM

Nov 2014

A decision that should never be taken as lightly as the GOP seems to.

tridim

(45,358 posts)

4. GOP is so screwed. nt

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:32 PM

Nov 2014

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)

9. I do hope you are correct about that. But they are soon to be a majority.

Reply to tridim (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:56 PM

Nov 2014

Strength & safe passage to President Obama through the remainder of his 8 years of public service.

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)

8. This will do two things with one stupid move.

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 03:50 PM

Nov 2014

First biggee,Wall Street can't take the hit. Several of the Big Banks are short of their required cash reserves and any disruption will cause failure of one or more. Second,Americans will finally wake up to this bunch of double speak idiots. This might be what the Rethugs are counting on in order to capture the White House in 2016,Newt tried this tactic and it blew up in his face,and all of a sudden old Newtie is making noise again. Did anyone notice who is all quite,McGrumpy and Little Lindsey.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)

10. It did blow up in Newt's face. His plan for American citizens was straight out of a death camp bible

Reply to Wellstone ruled (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 04:03 PM

Nov 2014

Parents work & their children sent off to orphanages to be raised.
Frightening bleak future of Newt's America.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)

11. The closer a government shutdown is to an election

Reply to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Nov 16, 2014, 04:51 PM

Nov 2014

the more likely that blame for it will stick. Also, it's not a guarantee that the blame will not accrue to the President, especially since it's widely viewed that the election earlier this month was a repudiation of the President and his policies.

My bet is that unless the immigration-oriented executive orders are extremely limited in scope, perhaps affecting only a million immigrants or less, the GOP will toss the dice on a government shutdown. They solidly believe they can blame Barack Obama for it by calling him a dictator, and if they're wrong, they have a lot of time to go before the 2016 elections. The political memories of the mushy middle are collectively quite short.