2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPoll: Voters want a primary challenge for Clinton
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/16/hillary-clinton-needs-primary-challenger-democrati/Democratic voters appear ready to get behind the would-be presidential campaign of former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton but they also want to see an active primary challenge for Mrs. Clinton, a new poll said.
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1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)Primaries serve a vital function, beyond merely picking the nominee.
DFW
(54,378 posts)Primaries force candidates to put their political cards on the table, so to speak. As members of a party that chooses its candidate through popular acclaim, we have the right to hear what those who would be our nominee have to say for themselves, as well as how they react in debates with others seeking the nomination. It shows who stands where, although it also gives the media to pick and choose incidents that have nothing to do with a candidate's true appeal. Just ask Howard Dean.
On the other hand, the system works wonders to expose shams. Just ask Herman Cain, Michele Bachmann, Rick Perry, and just about every other candidate for the Republican nomination in 2012. It's no fun when you realize your party is asking you to choose the candidate that sounds least like a moron. We will not be in that position in 2016. Whether or not you like HRC, Warren, Sanders, O'Malley or anyone else, they ALL have the candlepower. Any one of them has more upstairs than the 2012 batch of Republican hopefuls combined (not that being of average intelligence is a barrier to the presidency--remember a guy named "Dumya?" .
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)I am always impressed with him and his views when I see him interviewed, but that is all I ever see or hear about him. I am wondering what people more familiar with him think. I see him as being right there along with Bernie, EW, and Al Franken, as being the most progressive people in government right now.
Comments?
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)He would be dynamite on a ticket with EW, IMO. He is very attractive, smart and knows his stuff. They could be unbeatable. A firebrand progressive woman and a liberal guy who is strong for women. They would leave Jeb behind easily.
You can see who lights MY fire...
brooklynite
(94,566 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)A black or Hispanic VP candidate would add diverse thinking and problem solving. A good thing!
Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)Closest person to Brown politically (IMHO) who is really interested in running is former Maryland governor Martin O'Malley, a social and economic liberal and a lifelong Democrat.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)with Clinton, Sanders and Warren
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)You know, it has gotten to the point if I don't see you saying that in a thread, I wonder if you are okay.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Everyone wants a primary challenge. The voters do so that we'll have more options, and the networks want them so that they'll get more eyeball ca$h.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)Robbins
(5,066 posts)There won't be a choice.
The party establishment wants a cornation for Hillary.That way they don't have to pretend to appeal to Liberals and blacks.That way she can move to the right while the republican primary fight is going on.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)Once she puts her foot in there won't be any serious competition.
Robbins
(5,066 posts)The primary's will simply be a formality.Hillary has already been chosen
It's time to admit what coronating Hillary means.The Democratic party is no longer a liberal or progressive party.Even the true liberals are abandon their principles to go along with coronation of Hillary.
The democratic party is now pro-bank,pro-wall street,pro-corporation,pro-torture,pro-endless war,pro-cutting entitlements,pro-union
busting,pro-free trade,pro-protecting police and prosecutors when young black men are executed by Police
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Rowdyboy
(22,057 posts)He's only 3 years older than Sanders. Plus there will likely be someone that nobody is even thinking about now (like Mike Gravel in 2008).
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