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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
1. We know how to win elections, we just chose not to?
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:00 AM
Feb 2015

There really aren't that many possibilities. When you lose elections, you either A) Don't know how to win elections, B) Failed at trying to implement the steps necessary to win those elections, or C) Chose not to implement those steps for whatever reason.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Or D) Maybe y'all don't know what we mean by "winning" elections.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:10 AM
Feb 2015

I am sure the DNC will use the losses to justify moving even further to the right. (Starting to think "as planned".)

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
3. Blatant Refusal To Listen
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:56 AM
Feb 2015

to the Base....because they "don't like the message"...could be a problem

Perhaps the Dem Party has run into a base that finally drew a line in the sand...refused to go with the status quo as "leadership" continue to drag the party "Right".

Democratic Leadership is in denial if they're still asking questions that have already been answered, imo

Then this pops up:
http://www.ringoffireradio.com/2015/02/democrat-exodus-from-democrat-party-begins-no-surprise/

 

Dwight42

(43 posts)
5. The base has left the building
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 12:29 PM
Feb 2015

Thanks to Clinton, and his ''Centrist'' policies threw the Democrat's base, the poor and middle-class under the bus. Unfortunately his idea of the "centre" is so far to the right that Reagan and Nixon couldn't get elected today.

The majority of American want a government of, by and for the people, not this Plutocracy that benefits the very few and whose only goal is to be control of the world through military might.

I am sorry but the America of my youth has become the largest empire in history created by the same mentality that gave us fascism a century ago.

Unfortunately this can not continue as the US is broke and only keeps going because the leaders keep printing worthless dollars.

History has shown, Empires do not end well. And considering the group that has full control of the US government Nuclear War seems a very real probability.

And as history has also shown, anyone who speaks against these wars Dr. King or anyone with the ability to become president and doesn't go along with the plan, remember the Kennedy brothers; leaving the prospects of real change dubious at best.

An interesting sideline, John Kennedy was contemplating a political career after his successful Convention speech by running for the Senate from New York and clearly was a front runner when his untimely death unfortunately allowed Hillary Clinton, not from New York to begin her "centrist" political career.


 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
8. Clinton WON two elections and would have won a third. McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis all got HAMMERED.
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 02:29 PM
Feb 2015
 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
15. You probably think that the only way for Democrats to win elections is to become more and more
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 01:15 PM
Feb 2015

hungry for money and power over people, get more and more involved in
bribery and corruption, let money play a larger and larger role in elections,
take more money from the barely surviving to feed the already super-rich,
letting them die early deaths -- in short, Democrats should become more
and more Republican?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. They consider winning the presidential elections and getting trounced everywhere else
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 12:19 PM
Feb 2015

success. It validates their insistence on corporatizing the party. Many duers agree.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
10. I take it this is a rhetorical question
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 06:20 PM
Feb 2015

ACA - corporate written, corporate blessed => corporate windfall. TPP - "NAFTA on steroids". Cuba - New casinos and Walmarts. School profitization. Offshore drilling. Pipeline (HRC). Immunity to all of the banksters.

How many examples do you need? And why is it that the Turd way alternates between bragging about Obama's "centrism" and denying it? Is it confusion or multiple personality disorder? Pick a personality and stick with it.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
13. Has TWM mentioned concerns about redistricting and Citizens United?
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 12:23 AM
Feb 2015

And how the Republicans have leveraged high money at every level?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
11. they take it as proof that they're right when they lose: that people want Republicans
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 10:47 PM
Feb 2015

so we need to be more like them

it's like a bad boyfriend--he's always right, and that goes DOUBLE when he's wrong

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
12. They weren't even present in Ohio, a swing state, in 2014
Sun Feb 22, 2015, 11:04 PM
Feb 2015

The Democratic candidate for Governor didn't have enough money to run a single TV ad.

dsc

(52,163 posts)
14. He could have blanketed the airways
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:48 AM
Feb 2015

but it wouldn't have mattered. He was a very flawed candidate.

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