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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 02:38 PM Feb 2015

Will Boehner risk the Tea Party’s wrath?

Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is back in a familiar spot: between a rock and a hard place.

The Senate appears poised to send the House a “clean” bill funding the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), free of any measures attacking President Obama’s executive actions on immigration. But it’s not clear the plan could win the support of even a majority of Boehner’s conference.

Bringing legislation to the floor that would only pass with help from Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and Democrats could significantly undermine the Speaker’s credibility with his 245-member caucus — the largest majority the GOP has had in generations.

House Republicans will huddle in a private meeting in the Capitol basement on Wednesday morning to discuss their options, and it’s likely to be a tense gathering. Centrist Republicans have been urging their colleagues to pass a clean funding bill in order to avert the partial shutdown at Homeland Security that is slated to begin on Saturday.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/233756-will-boehner-risk-the-tea-partys-wrath

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Will Boehner risk the Tea Party’s wrath? (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2015 OP
Nope. The GOP created that monster and they now do whatever the monster wants. blm Feb 2015 #1
John Boehner is spineless.... chillfactor Feb 2015 #2
Boehner is a pitiful figurehead. nt geek tragedy Feb 2015 #3
This is going to be interesting ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #4
I, for one, am so sick of Boehner being referred to as reasonable or moderate. world wide wally Feb 2015 #5

blm

(113,091 posts)
1. Nope. The GOP created that monster and they now do whatever the monster wants.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 02:44 PM
Feb 2015

Decades of their cynical use of anti-government rhetoric created this monster.

chillfactor

(7,584 posts)
2. John Boehner is spineless....
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 02:47 PM
Feb 2015

it is surprising that he can even hold his body in a vertical position..tough to do w/o a spine....

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
4. This is going to be interesting ...
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 03:51 PM
Feb 2015
Centrist Republicans have been urging their colleagues to pass a clean funding bill in order to avert the partial shutdown at Homeland Security that is slated to begin on Saturday.

But immigration hardliners are bashing Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) plan B, which splits DHS funding from GOP provisions gutting Obama’s 2014 immigration orders. They’re pressuring Boehner and his leadership team to stick with the original House-passed bill that tied funding to GOP immigration riders, even though Senate Democrats have repeatedly blocked it.


Okay ... Let's game this out:

Scenario #1

Republicans go for the clean bill. Immigration Hard-liners are pissed because the Executive Order defunding would not survive a clean vote, pissing off their anti-immigration base (and funders).

Centrist (with any Hispanic electorate) are worried because should the IHLs present a clean defunding bill, they will be in a pickle ... they forced to vote on it, pissing off either: their anti-immigration base (and funders) or their Hispanic electorate.

Net result: gop screwed/Democrats Win

Scenario #2

Republicans don't go for the clean bill. IHLs please their anti-immigration base; but piss off their Border Enforcement/scared of the terrorists base.

Centrist piss off their Hispanic electorate AND piss off their Border Security/scared of the terrorist base.

But more ... the cost of saddling the entire gop with blame should the be an "incident", any time within the next 2 years, falls to the gop.

Net result: gop screwed/gop screwer/Democrats Win (unless there is an "incident, then the victims are screwed and to them, none of the politics matter.

world wide wally

(21,754 posts)
5. I, for one, am so sick of Boehner being referred to as reasonable or moderate.
Wed Feb 25, 2015, 05:02 PM
Feb 2015

He is as evil as they come even when he tries to show up the Tealiban.

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