2016 Postmortem

question everything

(47,479 posts) Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:17 PM Mar 2015

If for nothing else, we should elect Hillary just to rub the nose of Cotton et al. in crap

Oh, they told the Iranians that the next president - a Republican, of course - would null any agreement.

If we can believe the polls, Hillary is leading all the Republicans. So let her be the next president and tell Cotton and his 46 merry men to go eat crow. At least.

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If for nothing else, we should elect Hillary just to rub the nose of Cotton et al. in crap (Original Post) question everything Mar 2015 OP

So we should cut off our noses to spite our faces? Chan790 Mar 2015 #1

One world (acronym) SCOTUS question everything Mar 2015 #6

Jeb Bush would be much, much worse. cheapdate Mar 2015 #9

The problem is Hillary, Bibi and Cotton Top will tell the American people to "go eat crow". Autumn Mar 2015 #2

And then for the rest if the time R. Daneel Olivaw Mar 2015 #3

Yeah! Policy is for losers! Maedhros Mar 2015 #4

Silly reason to vote for someone. 840high Mar 2015 #5

This would be a bonus. SOTUS is the most important question everything Mar 2015 #7

Sotus is not my 840high Mar 2015 #8

well it will be. you just wait till they start taking OUR LIBERTY trueblue2007 Mar 2015 #10

Please don't put words 840high Mar 2015 #11

That's too bad. It should question everything Mar 2015 #14

I am sure. Children 840high Mar 2015 #17

Yeah,, but its the most sensible reason I can think of to vote for her. Hoppy Mar 2015 #12

Unfortunately, not. But she is our only chance to keep the White House (nt) question everything Mar 2015 #15

Here's an idea: rub the nose of Cotton et al in crap anyway DFW Mar 2015 #13

This is not about 2016 -- it is not what matters (we want a Dem for 1000000 other reasons) karynnj Mar 2015 #16

Chan790

(20,176 posts)

1. So we should cut off our noses to spite our faces?

Reply to question everything (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:27 PM

Mar 2015

Hillary would be every bit as bad for the middle-class and working-poor as Jeb Bush. They're both paid for with Wall St. money.

Let's not do that to America...America deserves better. America deserves a competent, real Democrat for President.

question everything

(47,479 posts)

6. One world (acronym) SCOTUS

Reply to Chan790 (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 04:04 PM

Mar 2015

Yes, papa nominated Sauter - who got tired soon enough - and also the dreadful Thomas.

The oldest justices are the liberals. The next president will nominate at least a new one and we should trust Clinton more than Bush. If someone here disagree, I'd like to hear this.

Nominating the next justice trumps everything else. We cannot assure the concerns of the middle and lower classes. of working people of affordable health - ACA or other system - without the Supreme Court.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)

9. Jeb Bush would be much, much worse.

Reply to Chan790 (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:11 PM

Mar 2015

To think otherwise is a separate reality from the one I know.

Autumn

(45,084 posts)

2. The problem is Hillary, Bibi and Cotton Top will tell the American people to "go eat crow".

Reply to question everything (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:31 PM

Mar 2015

I'm going to pass thank you.

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/08/hillary-clinton-failure-to-help-syrian-rebels-led-to-the-rise-of-isis/375832/

R. Daneel Olivaw

(12,606 posts)

3. And then for the rest if the time

Reply to question everything (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:34 PM

Mar 2015

we get to have our noses rubbed in it?

No thanks.

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)

4. Yeah! Policy is for losers!

Reply to question everything (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:43 PM

Mar 2015

Making Republicans feel bad is the most important goal!

840high

(17,196 posts)

5. Silly reason to vote for someone.

Reply to question everything (Original post)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 03:53 PM

Mar 2015

question everything

(47,479 posts)

7. This would be a bonus. SOTUS is the most important

Reply to 840high (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 04:07 PM

Mar 2015

If she is the nominee and liberals will repeat the 1968 game - we will end up with a right wing SCOTUS. Probably the most right winged one, but perhaps legal eagles can opine.

840high

(17,196 posts)

8. Sotus is not my

Reply to question everything (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 06:25 PM

Mar 2015

#1 concern.

trueblue2007

(17,218 posts)

10. well it will be. you just wait till they start taking OUR LIBERTY

Reply to 840high (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:54 PM

Mar 2015

AND FREEDOM AWAY.

I can't believe you said SUPREMEs aren't your big concern. THE WHOLE WORLD will be concerned.

840high

(17,196 posts)

11. Please don't put words

Reply to trueblue2007 (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 20, 2015, 11:59 PM

Mar 2015

i my mouth. I never used "big". I said it's not my #1 concern.

question everything

(47,479 posts)

14. That's too bad. It should

Reply to 840high (Reply #11)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 12:37 PM

Mar 2015

Whatever else your #1, and 2, and 3 concerns are - they can be affected by the Supreme Court. Just give it some thoughts, or, if you are not sure, ask here.

840high

(17,196 posts)

17. I am sure. Children

Reply to question everything (Reply #14)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 01:57 PM

Mar 2015

and old people going to bed hungry in the USA is my main concern. Our constant wars are also a great concern. Each to his own.

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)

12. Yeah,, but its the most sensible reason I can think of to vote for her.

Reply to 840high (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 01:33 AM

Mar 2015

She ain't worth much else.

question everything

(47,479 posts)

15. Unfortunately, not. But she is our only chance to keep the White House (nt)

Reply to Hoppy (Reply #12)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 01:03 PM

Mar 2015

DFW

(54,380 posts)

13. Here's an idea: rub the nose of Cotton et al in crap anyway

Reply to question everything (Original post)

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 08:01 AM

Mar 2015

We should nominate (and, hopefully elect) whoever we want to, independently of whether or not some Republican whack job is forced to look in a mirror and see the shit staring back at him.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)

16. This is not about 2016 -- it is not what matters (we want a Dem for 1000000 other reasons)

Reply to question everything (Original post)

Sun Mar 22, 2015, 01:43 PM

Mar 2015

Assume a deal is reached and the US and the other countries sign.

There are two possible paths - Iran complies or it doesn't.

If it complies, NO President will argue that the US should reverse this -- and in fact, as the INTERNATIONAL SANCTIONS are the key -- they couldn't.

If Iran does not comply, ANY President will take some action - as will the other countries.

So, the differences are in the margins - who defines "comply" -- but in reality it is not a unilateral US privilege to do that. (ie if the rest of world thinks we are in case 2, while the President says case 1 -- the dynamic is like I laid out for complying.

That is WHY this is such a big deal and why if Obama gets this, he changes the likelihood of war!

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