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NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
1. If Obama had not been elected, either time, it is possible a world war could have already
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:05 PM
Apr 2015

killed practically everybody by now.

At a minimum Iran would be gone and much more.

still_one

(92,454 posts)
4. There would most likely be a war, but Iran would not fall like Iraq, and the war would still be
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:38 PM
Apr 2015

going on, but the merchants of war would have achieved one goal, the price of oil would be through the roof

NoJusticeNoPeace

(5,018 posts)
5. Problem is your typical con wont stand for defeat, and if nuking someone assures victory
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 05:40 PM
Apr 2015

so be it.

This is very simple, we must NEVER allow a non liberal or a non Democrat to EVER occupy the WH again.

still_one

(92,454 posts)
12. They may like to, but they can't, unless they want to destroy the oil, which they don't, because
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 08:23 PM
Apr 2015

the whole region would explode literally internally and externally, and the damage to the oil would be not repairable if nuclear weapons were used.

The merchants of death have basically one goal in the middle east, and that is oil

The reason we invaded Iraq was oil. Even before we went in, the oil fields were already divided up between the oil companies.

No, a nuclear war in the middle east will not likely happen, and a conventional war, will go on for a long time



Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
13. thats the winner
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 06:50 AM
Apr 2015

I am not at all sure that wed be at war, they are just doing the scream the opposite of the democratic president bullshit.

I suspect they would be treating iran like cuba, be oblivious and reactive to things.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,446 posts)
16. I seem to remember
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 07:41 PM
Apr 2015

They all became doves the instant Obama began discussing strikes on Syria even though they had been complaining about him not doing anything beforehand. The truth is that they won't support anything he or any other Democrat does. They are flailing away into irrelevancy, or at least they would be if they weren't treated so seriously by the media.

gordianot

(15,247 posts)
6. The whole Republican outrage message is due for rejection.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 06:01 PM
Apr 2015

If billions are to be spent on ads I would like to see Democrats emphasize what has been accomplished in the face of obstruction. Actually set out an agenda.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. What you and I want as far as a positive Political Ad,
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 06:24 PM
Apr 2015

generally,ends up in the garbage can. What is really sick is,these so called Political Consultants and Ad agencies work both sides of the isle. It's all about the money and their ad campaign and they get the money. And at this time the likes of Al Fromm as a Dem addvisor and strategist is were we are at. BTW,his brother has the same role for the Rethugs. Ironic is it not.

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
14. no they arent
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 06:54 AM
Apr 2015

They are bigger jackasses now than in the 90s and havemore power in congress, the state level and judiciary than they did then.

AND, the opposition party is even more useless and the media even more brazenly in their pocket.

They arent going anywhere.

Warpy

(111,382 posts)
8. Democratic candidates in 2016 need to tell the country exactly what that means.
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 06:52 PM
Apr 2015

This country is damned near bankrupt, we don't have domestic industry left to survive a big war and yes, a war against Iran would turn into a huge war, quite possibly a world war.

Add to that it's a MIC war, a rich arms manufacturer's war, and those bastards don't want to contribute a dime to the treasury to fight it.

And it's our children and grandchildren who will get slaughtered in it, not theirs, "ironclad" draft or no draft.

If they tell the truth about this, they might defeat the war hawks. If they don't, forget it.

ruffburr

(1,190 posts)
9. It brings to mind,
Mon Apr 6, 2015, 07:23 PM
Apr 2015

The song war, "War what is it good for,Absolutely nothing", (apparently to the Republicans its good for thier corporate/political profits) 😬

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