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flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
Fri May 25, 2012, 01:30 PM May 2012

Joe Klein: Obama stumbles? Why the President's Right to Talk About Bain

The meme of the day in journo-world is that President Obama has stumbled at the outset of the general election campaign. The evidence for this? Well, uh, there isn’t very much, really–except that a few Democrats have criticized his campaign’s attacks on Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital and that Obama’s fundraising is merely humongous, instead of obscenely humongous. The two phenomena are linked, of course: Obama isn’t getting the usual haul from Wall Street because he has outrageously–outrageously!–tried to regulate the bankers who did so much to crash the economy in 2008. The handful of Democrats squawking are people who either (a) get money from private equity firms or (b) have retired and joined Mondo Casino. But there is another side to this story:

I suspect that these Bain attacks are working. Indeed, I suspect the reason that the Obama campaign–and the President himself in an extraordinary moment at the NATO press conference last week–is so adamant about pursuing this tactic is that it (a) lays the predicate for the anti-Romney campaign to come and (b) has been extremely effective with focus groups. And so, what we may be seeing here is the exact opposite of a stumble.

But are the attacks fair? No and yes. The job losses associated with the private equity brand of capitalism are, in fact, the least important long-term aspect of the story. It’s true, contra Krugman today (although Paul is absolutely right about his larger point, the bogus nature of the bankers’ narrative), that a great many American companies had become stagnant and bloated in the 1970s and that transitions had to be made to keep them profitably, especially in the area of information technology, and these transitions wiped out a lot of middle management jobs but made those companies more productive. Consultants like Bain suddenly became prominent and profitable because they helped companies through this transition.

Romney took Bain to the next logical step–investing in companies that Bain improved. There was nothing wrong, and much that was right, about this in each individual case. Romney is telling the truth as he sees it: sometimes these investments didn’t work out, but often they did and the profits were huge. It’s also true that sharkier sorts, seeing the profits that could be wrung up in debt for equity swaps, jumped into the market in a far less responsible way than Bain had and engaged in the vulture capitalism–we’ll always be grateful to Rick Perry for that term–that has helped to hollow out the economy.

Read more: http://swampland.time.com/2012/05/25/obama-stumbles/?iid=sl-main-arenapage
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jenmito

(37,326 posts)
1. I am so sick and tired of the MSM repeating false memes like this. Politico wrote an article
Fri May 25, 2012, 01:34 PM
May 2012

claiming Obama "stumbles out the gate" and it's being repeated over and over and over on MSNBC and probably everywhere else in the "news." I can't wait for the debates.

Lugnut

(9,791 posts)
2. The Bain attacks must be working.
Fri May 25, 2012, 02:02 PM
May 2012

If what the President is doing is classified as "stumbling" I hope he stumbles his way right back to a second term.

Mr Prez is telling the truth. Some people can't handle the truth.

flpoljunkie

(26,184 posts)
3. Me, too! Klein's refers to and links Politico's article in his blog post. Go, Joe!
Fri May 25, 2012, 02:03 PM
May 2012

Politico's definitely trying to peddle this crap. They are, as Arianna wrongly said about Obama's bin Laden ad, 'despicable!'

demgrrrll

(3,590 posts)
4. Keep rolling right over the top of these people Mr President. No fear. THAT is where we have
Fri May 25, 2012, 04:14 PM
May 2012

stumbled by letting the MSM set the tone and the tenor of the campaigns. Kerry paid attention to this type of nonsense and the Bushes rolled right over him like a tank.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
8. Well, thankfully Obama values and respects Kerry
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 06:07 PM
Jun 2012

than most here ever do.

Thankfully Obama appointed some Kerry people to run his 08 campaign.

The GOP loves it when we eat our own.

demgrrrll

(3,590 posts)
12. Wow, do I every resent your comment. I walked my legs into the ground for Kerry put my heart
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jun 2012

and soul into the campaign for 6 months, walked door to door, called, I can't begin to tell you how hard I worked to get him elected.
that does not mean he and his campaign made the right decisions about how to respond to critical remarks. Does your experience compare?. Why didn't you ask for clarification of my remarks before you decided what my thought process entailed.

politicasista

(14,128 posts)
14. Ok, it just seemed like
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 04:55 PM
Jun 2012

it was a slam on the Senator in praise of the POTUS. Some (not all) here (and in social land) have been throwing shade at Gore and Kerry and boasting how "Obama won't take sh-t" and does things better than Kerry and Gore ever did.

Ok, the POTUS is a dynamic Dem/candidate, but what did Gore and Kerry do to Obama? Nothing. They are trying to help, not hurt Obama and some don't want to see that, but if Obama is attacked, then it must be some other Dem's fault. IDGI

No dis to all you did for Kerry and good for you. Just making an observation of what it here from time to time.

If this post was offensive, apologies, that wasn't the intent. Peace.

siligut

(12,272 posts)
6. Now that people don't trust their own eyes and ears . . .
Fri May 25, 2012, 08:12 PM
May 2012

The MSM just feeds them a skewed view. Wait for the debates and see how they spin that.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
7. I completely agree with the point about focus groups. The Bain attack must have gone over
Sat May 26, 2012, 01:24 AM
May 2012

big time with them and that is why the Obama campaign is keeping it up.

Joe Scar has been talking this line of attack up all week, trying to make Booker some kind of saint. I keep thinking that he is desperate. Say ANYTHING!

There must be widespread PANIC among the repukes!

polichick

(37,152 posts)
9. The president is absolutely right to talk about Bain...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 06:56 PM
Jun 2012

Fuck those corporate whore Dems who say otherwise.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
10. The exposure of Bain Capital's fraudulent activities
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:48 PM
Jun 2012

are resonating in the swing states. Keep up the fight Mr. President!

Response to Dawson Leery (Reply #10)

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