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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 01:38 PM Apr 2015

NYT Editorial: Candidate Clinton and the Foundation

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD APRIL 23, 2015

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s determination to reconnect with voters in localized, informative settings is commendable, but is in danger of being overshadowed by questions about the interplay of politics and wealthy foreign donors who support the Clinton Foundation.

Nothing illegal has been alleged about the foundation, the global philanthropic initiative founded by former President Bill Clinton. But no one knows better than Mrs. Clinton that this is the tooth-and-claw political season where accusations are going to fly for the next 19 months. And no one should know better than the former senator and first lady that they will fester if straightforward answers are not offered to the public.

The increasing scrutiny of the foundation has raised several points that need to be addressed by Mrs. Clinton and the former president. These relate most importantly to the flow of multimillions in donations from foreigners and others to the foundation, how Mrs. Clinton dealt with potential conflicts as secretary of state and how she intends to guard against such conflicts should she win the White House.

The only plausible answer is full and complete disclosure of all sources of money going to the foundation. And the foundation needs to reinstate the ban on donations from foreign governments for the rest of her campaign — the same prohibition that was in place when she was in the Obama administration.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/opinion/candidate-clinton-and-the-foundation.html?_r=0

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NYT Editorial: Candidate Clinton and the Foundation (Original Post) Purveyor Apr 2015 OP
Sounds like the Times is going all Wellstone ruled Apr 2015 #1
The Clinton Foundation accepted money from foreign governments AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #2
Well summarized- alas. MBS Apr 2015 #3
The Bill and Hillary show is exhausting. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #6
You can say that again! karynnj Apr 2015 #7
wrong.... THE NYTimes is wrong again OKNancy Apr 2015 #4
Not wrong. It's about disclosure, not a ban. AtomicKitten Apr 2015 #5
I'm sure that the emails that she saved on her home server while SOS will explain. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #8
just idle curiousity dsc Apr 2015 #10
I can only imagine. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #12
I wonder who will disclose the server contents first, the NSA or China? With very little doubt Purveyor Apr 2015 #11
These sloppy allegations would never get so much press... youceyec Apr 2015 #9
 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
2. The Clinton Foundation accepted money from foreign governments
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 02:00 PM
Apr 2015

... while Hillary was SOS without disclosure explicitly against the agreement they had with the Obama Admin.

That is not an outrageous accusation. It's factual.

Whether or not there was quid pro quo or other wrongdoing isn't clear at this point. What isn't debatable, however, is the appearance of wrongdoing ... and thus begins again the continuing saga of the Bill and Hillary show.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
7. You can say that again!
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 08:05 PM
Apr 2015

I had hoped that with time and age, they might have learned that life is easier if you live with integrity. Think of the time saved not having to manufacture excuses.

You would think that as Bill Clinton is a well respected former President, credited for the good work he is doing and HRC essentially being handed the nomination on a silver platter after being given the job of Secretary of State -- at a point where President Obama NOT being George Bush meant a HUGE opportunity to be seen as part of the team improving the US's reputation.

Given all that, WHY do self defeating things like not follow the spirit and words of the agreement with Obama -- which incidentally would have PROTECTED her from exactly these types of charges and why - even if she was caught by changing standards on the rules of email did she not work in her last year, to transfer all the work emails to the State Department -- maybe even in some more useful form than 55000 printed pages of emails?

NO ONE has been given more by the Democratic party than HRC - this is essentially the second time where the powers that be tried hard to make her President. ( Imagine if the party put the say effort into electing Gore or Kerry -- rather than deeming them both boring.)

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
5. Not wrong. It's about disclosure, not a ban.
Fri Apr 24, 2015, 03:29 PM
Apr 2015

link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/foreign-governments-gave-millions-to-foundation-while-clinton-was-at-state-dept/2015/02/25/31937c1e-bc3f-11e4-8668-4e7ba8439ca6_story.html

In one instance that appears to violate the ethics agreement, foundation officials acknowledged they should have sought approval in 2010 from the State Department ethics office, as required by the agreement for new government donors, before accepting a $500,000 donation from the Algerian government.


While the foundation has disclosed foreign-government donors for years, it has not previously detailed the donations that were accepted during Clinton’s four-year stint at the State Department.


Foreign governments and individuals are prohibited from giving money to U.S. political candidates, to prevent outside influence over national leaders. But the foundation has given donors a way to potentially gain favor with the Clintons outside the traditional political limits.


Reuters blew the whistle on Clinton organizations’ incomplete tax filings dating back years, which failed to report tens of millions in overseas cash, including from foreign governments. These “mistakes”, evidently unnoticed by the Clintons’ bookkeepers and the savvy professionals at the IRS, are prompting Clintonworld to re-file at least five years’ worth of returns.


As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well. And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock. At the time, both Rosatom and the United States government made promises intended to ease concerns about ceding control of the company’s assets to the Russians. Those promises have been repeatedly broken, records show.
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
8. I'm sure that the emails that she saved on her home server while SOS will explain.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 09:07 PM
Apr 2015

What a life.

Husband, wife.

One speaks for 1/2 $M a pop and the other grants the OK to Chevron Fracking in Bulgaria and deals with Iranian interests, outsourcers and job-robbers.

What could be wrong about that?

Tata, you say? You mean???

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1016121016#post1

dsc

(52,162 posts)
10. just idle curiousity
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:03 PM
Apr 2015

but how did Sec Clinton gain power over energy development in Bulgaria? Did she become Prime Minister of Bulgaria when I wasn't looking?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
12. I can only imagine.
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:13 PM
Apr 2015

A US Secretary of State wields an awful lot of power.

It wouldn't be unusual to present an opportunity for US aid that depended upon their government making "certain decisions".

The GDP of Bulgaria has less than 1/30 of our GDP, and gets significant aid from us and other countries.

More importantly, it's smack in the middle of a fossil fuel "hot spot" and it's in Chevron's (and arguably US) interests to get a fossil fuel foothold in place, not so much for the citizens there but for the same reasons we installed the Shah of Iran.

It's all about the energy. I think global games like this are corrupt.

 

Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
11. I wonder who will disclose the server contents first, the NSA or China? With very little doubt
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:06 PM
Apr 2015

they both have data.

 

youceyec

(394 posts)
9. These sloppy allegations would never get so much press...
Sat Apr 25, 2015, 10:02 PM
Apr 2015

if HC wasn't a woman. As COO of Facebook Sheryl Sandberg has said recently, "The more powerful and successful a woman becomes, the less she's liked".

I think like racism, sexism is deep rooted in our collective psyche, whether we are aware of it or not. HC is by far the most well known female public figure. No other women comes even remotely close. With that, comes extra scrutiny beyond anything a man would be subject to.

It's really shameful I have to say. When Mitt Romney flat out refused to release his old taxes was there this extreme scrutiny about trustworthiness? No, of course not. His male, white privilege precluded him from being labeled as not trustworthy.

The NYT has been reduced to flat our lying now. There never was an outright ban on foreign donations as the piece states. They are literally making things up now!

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