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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Mon May 25, 2015, 11:59 AM May 2015

Bernie Sanders Aims To Catch On With Elizabeth Warren-Backing Democrats

| By KEN THOMAS
Posted: 05/25/2015 8:20 am EDT


PORTSMOUTH, N.H. (AP) — For Democrats who had hoped to lure Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren into a presidential campaign, independent Sen. Bernie Sanders might be the next best thing.

Sanders, who is opening his official presidential campaign Tuesday in Burlington, Vermont, aims to ignite a grassroots fire among left-leaning Democrats wary of Hillary Rodham Clinton. He is laying out an agenda in step with the party's progressive wing and compatible with Warren's platform — reining in Wall Street banks, tackling college debt and creating a government-financed infrastructure jobs program.

"I think our views are parallel on many, many issues," Sanders said in an interview with The Associated Press, describing Warren as a "good friend."

Sanders caucuses with the Democrats in Washington and is running for the Democratic nomination. He and Democratic former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley are vying to become the primary alternative to Clinton. Much of the energy behind a Clinton alternative has been directed to drafting Warren, but she has repeatedly said she won't run.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/25/bernie-sanders-elizabeth-warren_n_7435110.html

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Bernie Sanders Aims To Catch On With Elizabeth Warren-Backing Democrats (Original Post) Jefferson23 May 2015 OP
Ain't gonna happen Jackpine Radical May 2015 #1
ha ha I think that is quite right. Jefferson23 May 2015 #3
I hope so! swilton May 2015 #19
I love Warren..... daleanime May 2015 #2
She has been a strong voice and she is a threat to the status quo in DC. n/t Jefferson23 May 2015 #4
Reading the comments BrotherIvan May 2015 #5
True enough at this point, our work is to concentrate on just enough for him to win the nomination. Jefferson23 May 2015 #6
I'm puzzled by the "she can win" meme. malokvale77 May 2015 #23
I like your candor! Telling it straight- appalachiablue May 2015 #24
It has become increasingly difficult here to have ones say. malokvale77 May 2015 #30
Enthusiasm for Bernie lately and that recent DU poll showing him doing well appalachiablue May 2015 #32
Dear appa... malokvale77 May 2015 #34
I've seen that several times here about Reagan Dems, unfortunate & an oxymoron appalachiablue May 2015 #36
As if Hillary isn't trying to, with newly Progressive rhetoric. djean111 May 2015 #7
I don't think that hurts Sanders. At some point in the campaign it will come down to trust. Jefferson23 May 2015 #8
Here's the thing that does not seem to me that HRC supporters get - djean111 May 2015 #10
Yea, I hear you..I have no idea how it will shape up at this point..too much ground work Jefferson23 May 2015 #11
I doubt it that Warren would ever favor Clinton over Sanders, for whatever reason. She Cal33 May 2015 #14
I hope you're right. I might get concerned about concessions given in exchange for endorsements. Jefferson23 May 2015 #17
Bernie as POTUS, Warren as Senate Majority Leader. NorthCarolina May 2015 #9
Veep? Rosa Luxemburg May 2015 #12
He would have a number to choose from, NorthCarolina May 2015 #13
He, himself, just started to run. What's the rush? Cal33 May 2015 #15
I don't know, but she is pretty darn valuable in the Senate, so there is that to consider too. n/t Jefferson23 May 2015 #16
If Hillary and Julian Castro get together, he's her squeaky clean and Progressive cover. libdem4life May 2015 #21
According to posts here in the last couple months, Joaquin is married now. appalachiablue May 2015 #25
Yep..looked it up and he re-married Anna Flores and they have a daughter. Hate to say it, but that libdem4life May 2015 #26
It does but that's ok! Beautiful little girl they have. appalachiablue May 2015 #27
I saw his gorgeous wife, now I'll have to look for their daughter. That must have been libdem4life May 2015 #28
The Castros are highly accomplished & we need them very much. I see many more GOP Latinos/ appalachiablue May 2015 #29
They are definitely the new face of Latinos with so many unique attributes, not least of all their libdem4life May 2015 #31
I agree about their background esp. Mom. If the Dems. don't add them to the top ticket appalachiablue May 2015 #33
Julian seems to be the more upwardly mobile. Joaquin has been elected to Texas state office, then libdem4life May 2015 #35
"A powerful force for good" is right. But the GOP is also a "powerful force" - but it's for evil - Cal33 May 2015 #37
LOVE This Part: WillyT May 2015 #18
Yea, he pretty much is. I want to see him speaking everywhere, his message is sound, for Jefferson23 May 2015 #20
Finally, a badass left-winger !!! libdem4life May 2015 #22

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
5. Reading the comments
Mon May 25, 2015, 01:14 PM
May 2015

They are as split as DU

People supporting Bernie because they want the money out of politics and supporting his positions
People who support Hillary because "she can win"

It's 2008 all over again.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
6. True enough at this point, our work is to concentrate on just enough for him to win the nomination.
Mon May 25, 2015, 01:50 PM
May 2015

Doesn't have to be overwhelmingly so. I am hopeful we can have a good outcome, lots
of work ahead to stay focused on, that's for sure.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
23. I'm puzzled by the "she can win" meme.
Mon May 25, 2015, 08:07 PM
May 2015

She couldn't even beat the black guy with the Muslim sounding name.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
30. It has become increasingly difficult here to have ones say.
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:02 AM
May 2015

I'm old, and have been through a lot of election cycles.

I have gone through "Cold War" propaganda. It doesn't look like anything has changed.

I'm glad you are here.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
32. Enthusiasm for Bernie lately and that recent DU poll showing him doing well
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:29 AM
May 2015

seems to have allowed a little more freedom to speak candidly these days. We'll see, I hope it continues. You have the right to speak your mind. ~ One poster tonight summed it up perfectly about Bernie, "Now I Want to vote for someone". Love it, very encouraging.

Good for you having gone through so many elections; I don't know if I could take it! I get really into it and am a pretty poor looser, bad personality trait. In 1980 I was in DC as a young working grad student and went into shock when Reagan was elected. That took a lot out of us like the 12 year Occupation of Dutch, Nancy, Bush Sr. et al. So glad you're here too! ~ Appa

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
34. Dear appa...
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:59 AM
May 2015

The whole Reagan thing shocked me too.

I see a lot of Reagan Dems are still alive, and here on DU. It's a pity.

Backatcha.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
36. I've seen that several times here about Reagan Dems, unfortunate & an oxymoron
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:48 PM
May 2015

like Kennedy Republicans. How it came to pass I understand fairly well. Hope it fades, and real FDR, RFK Dems. revive, one can hope! Have a glorious day-


Seattle friends have a woman friend who wore black, the entire time Dutch was president. Now that's commitment!

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
7. As if Hillary isn't trying to, with newly Progressive rhetoric.
Mon May 25, 2015, 01:53 PM
May 2015

This Warren supporter was with Bernie the day he declared. I am not a personality-driven supporter, it is the principles and policies I look at. (Hopefully the adorable little charts won't be brandished at me!)

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. I don't think that hurts Sanders. At some point in the campaign it will come down to trust.
Mon May 25, 2015, 01:57 PM
May 2015

Terrific to hear you've already switched over, djean.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
10. Here's the thing that does not seem to me that HRC supporters get -
Mon May 25, 2015, 02:10 PM
May 2015

If Liz Warren endorsed Hillary, I would still be a Bernie supporter. I adore Warren, but she does not determine who I support.
I am assuming that Warren will not run at this point, because that would just weaken Bernie. If it was announced that she would be Bernie's VP pick, that would be fantastic, though!
If she threw in with Hillary, I would just assume promises were made or something like that - and stick with Bernie.
I believe Bernie's VP would be able to do good things on their own, or have more of a say in matters. I believe a Hillary VP pick would only be made on the basis of trying for votes that Hillary could not get on her own. That's what I believe, and I am not interested in arguing about it, really, it seems silly to argue about POSSIBLE events as if they were a done deal.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
11. Yea, I hear you..I have no idea how it will shape up at this point..too much ground work
Mon May 25, 2015, 02:14 PM
May 2015

to do for now. If Warren did end up backing Clinton, that would be a significant blow to Sanders.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
14. I doubt it that Warren would ever favor Clinton over Sanders, for whatever reason. She
Mon May 25, 2015, 03:09 PM
May 2015

isn't the type to abandon principles for whatever material gain.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
17. I hope you're right. I might get concerned about concessions given in exchange for endorsements.
Mon May 25, 2015, 03:20 PM
May 2015

But worrying about that will not help, too much work to do in the mean time.

Tomorrow is a big day for Bernie, very exciting.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
9. Bernie as POTUS, Warren as Senate Majority Leader.
Mon May 25, 2015, 02:04 PM
May 2015

That would be truly a powerful force for good right there.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
13. He would have a number to choose from,
Mon May 25, 2015, 02:53 PM
May 2015

but perhaps Marcy Kaptur would be one possibility. She's progressive on all the issues, and is a representative from Ohio, and it puts a woman on the ticket. Run through the list of caucus members over at the CPC website. I would venture to guess that would be one starting point in his search (although I suspect he already knows who he would tap for that position should the opportunity arise).

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
21. If Hillary and Julian Castro get together, he's her squeaky clean and Progressive cover.
Mon May 25, 2015, 04:56 PM
May 2015

I don't see Julian fitting in with Sanders as he seems to have jumped on Hillary's bandwagon.

Maybe Sanders could tap Joaquin who has been elected as a Texas State Senator from 2002-2012, then to the House of Representatives since 2012 so has experience with the Washington Beltway. Sounds a bit silly, but stranger things have happened. Truly representative of the North and the South. Hispanics are the largest minority group and Bernie's positions should resonate with them, especially if one of their own is on the ticket. Joaquin is single, and unfortunately, that may be a detriment.

Jeb has a Hispanic wife and sons...all of whom speak Spanish. I'm still not convinced he's going to be the nominee, but if so, the Hispanic issue should definitely be addressed.

And for the concerned...no it's not too soon to be discussing all of these matters. It is too important to sit on our laurels until some specific appropriate time. People are making up their minds, staff is being chosen, donors are being lined up, candidates are testing the waters, television interviews are setting out feelers, etc. I agree it's sooner than before, but with the "inevitability" of Hillary, seems it's come up earlier.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
26. Yep..looked it up and he re-married Anna Flores and they have a daughter. Hate to say it, but that
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:19 AM
May 2015

definitely increases his political value. It shouldn't matter, but we know that it does.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
28. I saw his gorgeous wife, now I'll have to look for their daughter. That must have been
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:33 AM
May 2015

around the time he got elected to the House of Representatives. I just wish them well...he's going places, too. Will be fun to watch.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
29. The Castros are highly accomplished & we need them very much. I see many more GOP Latinos/
Tue May 26, 2015, 12:57 AM
May 2015

Hispanics in the media and govt. lately. I hope the Dems. can do some serious recruiting in that growing area. Henry Cisneros was at HUD in the 90s and since then there's Rep. Luis Gutierrez (IL), Sen. Bob Menendez (NJ), Bill Richardson, Thomas Perez, Secy. of Labor, Tony Villaraigosa, LA Mayor, Sonia Sotomayor and some others. But the 35-50 age group, including women needs work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Latino_Democrats

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
31. They are definitely the new face of Latinos with so many unique attributes, not least of all their
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:05 AM
May 2015

mother. Second generation, from almost a storybook (in politics, anyway) humble background, and it shows. And both of them now in DC. I read that Obama first offered Julian the Secretary of Transportation and he turned it down. Then he got HUD...which is a personal passion, given his background...decent housing for all.

These guys are true leaders at a time that is right to really electrify the Hispanic Vote...for Democrats.

appalachiablue

(41,144 posts)
33. I agree about their background esp. Mom. If the Dems. don't add them to the top ticket
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:35 AM
May 2015

very soon they're nuts I realized about 6 months ago. We'll see!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
35. Julian seems to be the more upwardly mobile. Joaquin has been elected to Texas state office, then
Tue May 26, 2015, 10:27 AM
May 2015

the House of Representatives from 2002 on. Julian was elected to the San Antonio City Council, then Mayor, until Obama brought him to DC.

Pretty sure both are being groomed for official positions.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
37. "A powerful force for good" is right. But the GOP is also a "powerful force" - but it's for evil -
Tue May 26, 2015, 01:00 PM
May 2015

even if they should only control the House. But they have more than that. They also control the
Supreme Court. No matter which way you look at it, Sanders/Warren (or anyone else) will be
having a rough time. There is no escape from it. But the two of them are both game fighters.
They both won't quit.

 

WillyT

(72,631 posts)
18. LOVE This Part:
Mon May 25, 2015, 03:32 PM
May 2015
For Sanders, a key question is electability. Clinton is in a commanding position by any measure. Yet his supporters in New Hampshire say his local ties and longstanding practice of holding town hall meetings and people-to-people campaigning — a staple in the nation's first primary state — could serve him well.

"Toward the Vermont border it's like a love-fest for Bernie," said Jerry Curran, an Amherst, New Hampshire, Democratic activist who has been involved in the draft Warren effort. "He's not your milquetoast left-winger. He's kind of a badass left-winger."


From OP article.







& Rec !!!

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
20. Yea, he pretty much is. I want to see him speaking everywhere, his message is sound, for
Mon May 25, 2015, 03:37 PM
May 2015

the majority of Americans. I want to hear him speak about what a thriving democracy
looks like, and I hope voters will want that bad enough too.

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